Talk:Re: Chapter 56/@comment-26689808-20151206144551/@comment-74.135.59.112-20151206192852

Eto v Kaneki: I think the result of the fight was a result of many possible factors, the degrees to which each played a part being unknown. First, Kaneki seems to have gotten more controlled, agile, and battle-smart. I'm not going to say for certain that he has gotten faster, but through training with arima, he has certainly learned better fighting technique and strategy, instead of just going in. Second, Eto was in her behemoth kakuja form, which seems to be more suited for group fights. She used this form against arima, whose fighting style seems to have been inherited by kaneki now, and it didn't do much. She is pretty slow in this form, making her attacks brutally strong but decently easy to read, thereby allowing Kaneki to evade with relative ease. Third, Eto's kagune seemed to have gone a little wacko, which may have impeded her ability to fight. And last, it is possible that she was holding back, since she has achieved her goal of bringing Kaneki back.

Impact on story: Kaneki will objectively get stronger after feasting on Eto's kakuja. Whether that means we will see insane centipede next chapter is uncertain. I don't think it is possible for Kaneki to return to the ccg as haise unless everybody who sees his actions happens to lie for some reason. He will probably go on his own and maybe meet up with some people like amon. It is possible that he will either be attacked or attack the ccg.

Eto's feelings for Kaneki:I agree with a lot of what you said. However, I'm not sure if the feelings are neccesarily romantic. More maternal. Maybe being loved by a son is more accurate. This ties into the kakuja's egg aspect. I feel that she realized at a point that she cannot acheive her goals on her own, and is seeking to use kaneki as her heir(the second king). Her feelings are definitley multi-faceted though. Kaneki said it was an honor to Eto, leading me to think that he may have an inkling of respect for her. However, he isn't going to let her stand in his way, and we will have to wait and see whether his future actions inadvertently fall in line with what eto wants for him.

Second King: I agree with everything you said. However, there is the possibility of two things: 1) She wants Kaneki to stand by her and rule with her. or 2)She wants him to be her heir, the one to come after her. That may imply that she is dead. With her out of the picture, at least for now, i wonder how he will get to where she wants him to be. She seems to know him like herself, so maybe she has faith that he will become like her, whether he wants to or not.

So:Eto is probably alive, Kaneki is stronger(but not as much as or in the way that people may think he is), Kaneki will not return to CCG(a bunch of lying would have to be done for him to do so, or turning the other way), Eto sees herself as a second mother to kaneki, but she also sees him as either a partner to the throne or an heir