Talk:Re: Chapter 56/@comment-90.204.177.135-20151207150723/@comment-27308353-20151209050957

You're missing out on a LOT of key points, i'm not going to address them all but i'll throw a few of them out there.

Kaneki being stronger than Eto at this point in time will be a major plot hole, should he be relatively close to her in power ? Maybe, Eto was born a half ghoul and spent her whole life cannibalizing ghouls as well as fighting countless battles and building up probably one of the strongest Kagune / Kakuja's in the series. Now Kaneki has had his years of training with Arima giving him extraordinary battle wits and strategic decision making but there was no way Arima allowed Kaneki to feast on ghouls / humans to build up a stronger Kagune.

Kaneki had no battle experience before TG started, he was made into a half ghoul by having organs transplanted inside of him and gained a unique kagune because of his keen creativity and intelligence in general. Rize was known to have possessed an exceptional kagune probably stronger than Jason's ranking at S so naturally Kaneki was given exceptional power when he transgressed to a half ghoul. Him having a better hang of his kagune than most ghouls is most likely a display of his ability to learn quickly which would give some logic to the insane power he has now.

But vs Eto who has fought probably countless more battles than him, and has probably never stopped eating ghouls, he shouldn't be able to surpass her YET. I would love to see Kaneki become the most op ghoul around right now but believing he has already done so by gaining knowledge from Arima and barely cannibalizing or using his Kakuja in general would be completely nonsensical.

Sure Kaneki outsmarted Eto this fight, but i'm almost 100% certain that Eto wasn't fighting seriously. Someone with that much experience just succumbing to hunger and allowing herself to be defeated in such a trivial way is simply a plot hole if Ishida took that route and he is too much of a logical thinker for that. Defeating Takizawa to a stalemate was 100% logical and simply a display of their raw Kagune power. Kaneki had built up his Kagune to at least take on SS rated ghouls by the end of TG pt 1.

Conclusion : No Kaneki should not be stronger than Eto just yet all around, and no I do not believe Eto was fighting seriously. It seemed more like a plan to get Kaneki to think he defeated her and devour her Kakuja in order to build up another being similar to her. I also believe that Kaneki showed her mercy by allowing the top half of her body to get away and that he most likely dropped her off the sky scraper close to his severed arm in order to eat and recover from it. Kaneki most likely has his own plans for Eto in the future. This was probably a gamble Eto decided to take with her life and it paid off in her favor since Kaneki decided to be merciful.

This is the start for Kaneki, now that he has devourced Eto's Kakuja he will now gain powers that surpass or equal out to an SSS rate. Now that he has the battle experience, knowledge, and raw power he will truly become one of the strongest ghouls. But against Eto before he devoured the Kakuja i'm almost certain he was inferior to her in at least raw power (not battle prowess or the like.)