Talk:Matasaka Kamishiro/@comment-114.108.203.10-20150802142959/@comment-26059579-20150804055508

I love Kaneki and Haise as much as the next guy, but to say Haise on his own with suppressants can beat Shachi is ubsured. As Haise Sasaki he struggled to beat Serpent an S rated ghoul and only could beat him using Kaneki's power. I'm not saying Haise as himself is weak he is pretty damn strong, but defeatiing Shachi at his current state is stretching it.

Regarding pre-kakuja Seidou I'm kinda iffy. Seidou has not doubt more fire power than non-kakuja Kaneki, but if Kaneki is able to out think Seidou (who has been shown to use more brawn than brain) like he did with Yamori I could see him winning by a small margin.