Talk:Nutcracker/@comment-24231905-20150922074546/@comment-10733658-20150922081358

....okay? I'm not really sure where you're going with things, or what sort of response you wanted?

I've said it before, but I think it's a mistake to reduce a female character so much. Tropes are not inherently a bad thing, and even while acknowledging that obviously there are issues with over-sexualized female characters and treatment of women by society.....I think it's an enormous mistake to automatically condemn any examples of a highly-sexual female character. Especially just because the creator happens to have a penis.

Ishida has given us a lot of really interesting female characters, and played with some of those expected tropes. Nutcracker is an example of a highly-sexual female character, and obviously one that blends Sex and Violence together. But we have a lot of disturbing elements to her character, with both the types of things she does and the final glimpse of her past that implies a history of victimization. Unfortunately, it's very common for women that were sexually abused at a young age to develop very unhealthy sexual behaviors. Nutcracker absolutely matches that unfortunate reality, and after the sexy we have these shocking final moments that indicate childhood victimization.

And her role hasn't been one of the temptress, but rather about Shirazu's struggles to deal with having killed her because he recognizes her as a person. He's thinking of her as a victim, and relating her to his bedridden little sister. The sexual element is removed, in favor of a narrative of victimization and belated compassion.

Unfortunately, dudes are gonna find things sexy regardless of the author's intentions. Rei Ayanami was never intended to be a fan-favorite Waifu, but she ended up as one anyway. There are people that talk about how sexy Eto is, when her nudity is never presented in a sexual fashion.

Ishida has played with conventional fanservice in a lot of ways, both in having so much male fanservice in the series and using female fanservice in very disturbing ways.