Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-29921675-20160909135932/@comment-29921675-20160909205130

@Furutasmole First of all, I think Suzuya-Chan refered to Hide being a Manic type not suiting him. Also I have never mentioned sadistic puppetmaster type of villian: that would be Eto imo. In addition, I never said EVIL mastermind. There is no such concept as "good" and "evil" in Tokyo Ghoul, it's more like a whole spectrum of gray.

Hide could the type of mastermind who'd just arange the pieces of the domino and then give a little push and things would go their own way... but the ending result would still be what he wanted. That to me would be his last laugh, not necessarily an evil tragical thing but something he desired to go his way. However, I do think that if it is needed, Hide will intervene in any way even if it meant killing someone in cold blood.

And about his relationship with Kaneki. We know Kaneki's side; Hide saved him multiple times, helped him, accepted him as a Ghoul, and Kaneki feels lonely without Hide. Hide cares about Kaneki as well, but we don't entirely know why is that. The first question we should ask is: "Out of all people, why did he choose Kaneki as his best (and only) friend?" My thoughts about this is because Hide saw himself in Kaneki: a sad, broken lonely boy. And perhaps he wanted to save Kaneki all of this time, because he doesn't want anyone else to get to the same point as him. We don't know Hide's past, but knowing Ishida he could create something that give Kaneki's Tragedy a run for his money. Hide may already be too far gone, but uses his happy mask as a coping mechanism.

In addition Hide could've drastically changed in the 2-3 year timeskip. I think Hide thought Kaneki was dead until the end of the Auction. But the deed was done, Hide was lonely all this time. And loneliness usually doesn't bring positive character development. If what I said about Hide being broken turns out to be true I wouldn't be surprised if he changed for a very cold emotionless character.

I have a feeling the reunion between Hide and Kaneki would not be as grand as we expect it. It could take a very dark turn. It would make sense for Kaneki to have the final battle with Hide, it would make the reader even have some difficulties on whose side should they chose. Both of them were right but both of them were  also wrong. Their battle doesn't necessarily mean a literal battle, it could be a battle of words and arguments. Violence is never the only solution. Nevertheless, it would hurt a lot.

Phew now that got a dark turn. Let's go to lighter stuff like Hide outwitting Furuta like @Anon suggested! I really want to see that as well, it's about time someone puts Fruit into place! Also I want to know his real motives and show some real feelings! But I trust Ishida, we'll just wait and see!