Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-27143318-20151031170043/@comment-27143318-20151101133028

@Blue Luna

I accidentally deleted all of my text so now I have to type it back again, so forgive me if I am more brief than I'd like to be. Now, naturally, I agree that we haven't seen her true character a lot, but from what's shown so far, she's just been very cold and not much else. That aside, while I agree that if she got emotional after the Anteiku raid it wouldn't have gotten her anywhere, it would still make sense if she succumbed to that, since that's what happened last time she lost her entire peaceful life despite not doing anything wrong. That aside, as to the bridge seen, her behaviour was wrong but her point was correct. No one should make choice in the place of someone else. That's what Kaneki did and it was wrong. That's what Touka is doing right now. Giving back Kaneki's memories to him wouldn't take away his new family (he's still got an old family, by the way, that's still loving him and still waiting for him) or his new life - it would simply give him the choice to pick between his old life or his new one. He doesn't have to do anything else than that if he remembers. What Touka does is she takes that choice away in order to "protect" him. That's what Kaneki did too - look where that got him. Touka was angry at him for that too, but now she does just the same thing. I know that it's a hard choice since it would impact his life so heavily, but it still doesn't make sense - at the very least, she could've said that she'd take a long time to consider and think about what'd be the appropriate course of action, but she outright instantly refused to provide Kaneki with his right of choice. She started controlling his life for him. That's just wrong and hypocritical. Wanting to protect your friends is good, yes, but doing it against their wishes is not. If Kaneki had stayed behind at Anteiku (that could've possibly happened if Touka was more gentle and didn't lash out of him at the bridge, I guess) then all of them could've been living happy lives right now. His choice to "protect" his friends only brought them immense pain, grief and sorrow. If they had chosen it at least Kaneki wouldn't be the one to blame for that. That's why I am so angry with what Touka is doing right now. I am sorry, I had prepared a nicer reply but backspace also serves as a way to go back one page ._.

@Ahendra

It's not that I have something against her being a pacifist -  that's alright too and it has always been a part of her character. It's just that in the context her behaviour doesn't make any sense and her entire chracter development was essentially thrown out of the window and replaced with a badly developed polar opposite copy of her with the personality complexity of a teaspoon.

@Anon

Well, yes. She'd be deciding whether to allow him to choose or not. Remember - Kaneki is not obliged to go back to his former life if he remembers. All he will be able to do if he has his memories is make a free choice about his own life - whether to go to his previous family and leave the new one, or abandon his old family and continue living with the new one (that uses him as an attack dog. Yes I am kind of biased, sorry).