Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-142.196.47.107-20150904045649/@comment-74.194.229.64-20150904163702

No, in the anime they were really trying to find a way to make Hide's status unclear. Did they do a good job? No obviously not it was awful, but they couldn't really do much so thats just what they shit out. The whole final scene with Kaneki carrying Hide was proof  of that.

To explain: It would make no sense for Kaneki to get up and carry Hide's body out of Anteiku had Hide absolutely, without a doubt been dead. The whole reason Hide and Kaneki were in Anteiku, and the reason it burned down in the first place was because of the symbolism. Anteiku was the one place that brought him the most happiness, and Hide was the one person who brought Kaneki the most happiness. That’s what they represented, and if they’re both gone he has nothing else. So if Hide was dead, and Anteiku was burning down, he would’ve been totally content with just burning to death in there with him. And he was. He was making no movements to indication that he was gonna be moving at all, until  Hide  moved. 



And then he carries him out, 3 whole fucking minutes of them playing unravel while he carries him out there. It definitely felt like they were stalling, trying to buy themselves more time. But even after that, it didn’t show Kaneki and Arima’s fight/Kaneki’s death. I know at first that pissed a lot of people off, including myself, but thinking back on it now, it was just another attempt at making his death a mystery. That’s what they were doing in that scene. If Kaneki hadn’t actually carried Hide out of Anteiku because he thought there was a chance for him to be saved, instead of whatever other reason, (wanting to bring his body back, not wanting it to be burned by the fire, whatever it could’ve been) then wouldn’t that mean Kaneki would still want to die? I mean, he just lost the only two things he could call home, that made him happy, and he couldn’t save any of the people he came there to save, so what does he really have now? If Hide was dead, Kaneki would have nothing left to live for, and would want to die. (That’s pretty obvious, but still) So, if when he and Arima fought, he were to have fought back it would’ve basically confirmed that Hide’s alive, while had he not fought back, and just let Arima kill him, it would’ve confirmed Hide’s death.

<span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#3a3a3a;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">His status is completely unknown, and that’s exactly why you shouldn’t put deceased as his status in the anime, when that might not be true. You’re upset at this person for trying to argue against something THAT IS TOTALLY ARGUABLE, while you treat your take on what happened like it’s canon. (To the point you would add it into the wiki like it’s a canon fact when it’s not.)

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.575;margin-top:11pt;margin-bottom:11pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#3a3a3a;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re so tired of people arguing with you about it just change his status to match his manga status-- unknown. You’d get a lot less shit than you are now, and if you’re not gonna do it then honestly just stop getting upset at people for calling you guys out on it. You put your opinion on the wiki, we all have every right to put our opinion in the comments <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#3a3a3a;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">at least <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#3a3a3a;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">. <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#3a3a3a;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">