Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-107.211.157.113-20160522161922/@comment-27376148-20160523100214

i personally dont see toukas use in cochlea either despite literally being there. by that i mean her encounter didnt had any effect on kaneki - he was still planning on dying. the only thing that made him second guessing it in the end was arima telling him that he would track the others down after kaneki was dead - that would have worked also with hinami (srsly kanekis plan was just bad of course hinami wouldnt have been saved if he got her out og cochlea and got himself killed afterwards)

so practically for me re and the others were just a damsel in distress device - which was only emphaszised recently bc even eto saved them by coincidence without any looses on :re s side which really killed the impact on anything surrounding them this raid rly.

the actual impact on kaneki were arima and hide in the end - just like hide was a major fator (excuse) to begin with for kaneki in this arc.

i agree with dayne toukas "character developement" was obv since the earliest chapters (actually the end of tg even) it just doesnt fit into this serious arc without her having to take any emotional damage. its just a parade "oh look how great touka is" which makes me just like: why is that necessary? i knew all of that already. the actual developement that got lost along the way off screen is ayatos imo. he has grown much more between the series and we got to see little to nothing on that. from a highly aggressive teenager (toukas tempers were a joke in comparison) to someone the more calm ghouls in aogiri seemed to be more attracted to then tatara asa boss figure, who encounters banjou respectfully and honestly cares abt hinami. i know ayato hasnt a strong relationship but there were other characters who got screentime too for their developement (karren for example) so id like to have seen more of that tbh.

btw i wonder where that whole anteiku= home for kaneki came from? i cant remember kaneki ever referred to them as a home sry if i missed sth.