Talk:Seidou Takizawa/@comment-121.96.57.140-20150414045835/@comment-10733658-20150414145123

Exactly. Aogiri gathers some seriously messed up Ghouls, so of course their "creation" would probably fit right in.

And man, that's hard to say. In some ways, I would say Takizawa simply because he's fallen SO FAR from who he used to be. From JACK, we see that Yamori was always kind of vicious but not nearly to the degree he was post-torture.