Talk:Re: Chapter 68/@comment-188.4.222.201-20160315203027/@comment-10733658-20160317045259

I'm not intending to take any credit away from Shirazu or Urie, either. This isn't to dismiss what they accomplished, so much as it was looking at the ultimate question of Noro as an opponent vs Takizawa as an opponent. One was never shown to be capable of advanced thought, while the other is not only capable of strategy but also working as a team.

In terms of "what killed Noro", I think it's a two-fold issue. Saying that he ran out of RC cells does not discredit what the Quinx accomplished, but rather that the damage Shirazu in particular inflicted was so massive that it drained everything Noro had. He went from generating massive kagune to attack, to being reduced to the point that his kakuhou was exposed.

Dayne Dariel, I think you're forgetting that Noro wasn't capable of that sort of advanced thinking. He is described as literally having two modes: Ignore/Wait and Attack. He did not demonstrate any capacity for strategy or higher thought, but rather would just stand there taking attacks or launch his own. There was no indication that he was actively tricking people or even capable of considering his own weaknesses. If he were that intelligent, he wouldn't be someone that just stood around letting people blow him to pieces all the time. Remember, Noro was essentially a rotting corpse being kept going by the kakuhou. He was an eating machine capable of minimal action, primarily following whatever commands Eto or Tatara gave him.

Noro died because the Quinx continually dealt massive damage, and the protracted battle meant he was not only using his RC supply to regenerate constantly but also to generate increasingly larger kagune. So he was using up a finite supply, and got to a point where the kakuhou itself was exposed for Urie to destroy.

Which, again, wraps us around to the thread's primary question which was Noro in comparison to Takizawa. Noro wasn't intelligent enough to realize he couldn't keep up the pace against the Quinx, and kept blindly soaking up damage and attacking blindly. Takizawa is not only strong, but intelligent and familiar with the kinds of tactics the Quinx would be using. So he'd have a better chance against them, but also would know when to run or get backup.