Talk:Re: Chapter 48/@comment-26544002-20151012131432/@comment-79.41.65.82-20151013205147

By that logic there shouldn't be any kind of symbolism in TG.

Thus if you see a person with the number 2 on the shirt you don't start suspecting him to be linked with the Tarot Card the High Priestess. While if you see a character in this manga wearing such a shirt you should think about it as some kind of foreshadowing (even if sometimes imo people see numbers where there aren't, Ishida made his numbers and associations pretty clear).

It's a manga, so obviously some scenes and words are used in a symbolic way. From a symbolic point of view Kaneki Ken "died" in TG and the story we are reading now is the story of Haise Sasaki or the story of the re(turn) of Kaneki.

If we are discussing from a psychological point of view I agree with you at 100% Dalaios Haise and Kaneki are the same person and Ishida made it pretty obvious: same personality, same insecurities, same body Language, same way to cling to Others and to imitate their ways of talking and acting. Haise is the same as Kaneki because he is Kaneki.

Still I don't see anything wrong in saying that Kaneki "died" in TG if we use it in a symbolic way. Plus the fact that Haise is indeed the same person of Kaneki is clear to us as readers, but in-universe it's a real problem: Sasaki sees Kaneki as a completely different entity, Hinami is unsure, probably some people in the CCG see them as two different people as a way of coping with the idea of working with a ghoul (they can think he is not the same centipede who made the extermination of the one-eyed owl fail), Shuu and the people of :re aren't sure if his memory can return and so they don't know how to feel about him.

Finally it's not normal to consider the myself of yesterday dead, but it's not so rare to meet people who after tragic experiences say things like: "A part of me died that day/with that person" or something similar. Of course they don't think they actually died, but it's a way to describe how they feel. It could be overdramatic, but not impossible.