Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-26544002-20160529184259/@comment-27247962-20160530222618

@badesrabbito This is quite interesting!

My thoughts start to cross with some of yours, but I doubt i'll ever posess the same investment in those characters to get satisfaction from their noble deeds. When push comes to shove character attachment is an important factor in why i'm critisizing them on certain things. Unlike most fans, Ishida didn't get me warm for most re:characters, except Shuu and Hinami. But i'm overall neutral about their appearances and what they do. But since they are fan favorites and characters from the start of the show, they'll inevitably appear in some scenarios and get a special treatment. I see it as special treatment, because i'm not that invested in them and then the realism of the plot becomes more important. And by now you'll know, I found them misplaced in Cochlea, because it wasn't realistic enough for me.

Now on to the interesting points you made:

1. slight difference in opinion, but practically similar thoughts.

2. As well as mixing in V, Aogiri and CCG business, it could also be seen as them making some final actions, before settling down. The persons they saved are both persons they have history with, so it's not that weird they'd go out of their way to save them. The might even feel obliged or guilty for living peacefully or it's self-evident that they at least try to grant their old friends the same peaceful way out. So I can still see them saving those two and not mixing themselves anymore in V, Aogiri and CCG business, to live a fairly peaceful life away from the fighting.

3. follows point (2.) in the sense that I don't really see the use in that, after starting your coffeeshop and all that. So yeah besides wanting to save Hinami, i don't really get why they would make it so risky. But after this rescue, because Hinami was clearly their only goal, it was not like they tried any sabotaging to make a stand or declare war on CCG or something. They can perfectly save Hinami with the thought in mind that they want her to experience the same peacefullness and are willing to go that far for an old friend. After all like you said, it's Touka, i'm not suprised she's willing to go to that extent for her friends.

Our views differ indeed. But they converge too. Let's say you're view is just more open-minded and optimistic, seeing them play an important role in ending this tragic tale of ghouls in Tokyo. While mine is more down to earth, not expecting too much, to not be dissapointed or annoyed by what is happening. But i would love to see them hook up with Kaneki again, my expectations are just very low.