Talk:Re: Chapter 141/@comment-28892972-20170916194325/@comment-31154374-20170916222442

How the hell is any of this even Kaneki's fault? This isn't a matter of Kaneki being an incompetent leader, it's a matter of Furuta managing to slip a mole into the 24th Ward; the guy had a tracker on his tongue. Even if they immediately discovered it, he could just activate it anyway and the Oggai would show up all the same...nobody expected them to start weaponizing children.

I also, quite frankly, find it disturbing how you're all willing to discard Kaneki so easily. Whether he made mistakes or not, you're literally saying "I'm done with Kaneki" and "Kaneki should die"- he's just started to be leader, and even then he's not doing horribly. After all, he did leave some combat-capable ghouls behind (the Blades and White Suits); they didn't expect an entire battlalion to show up because nobody even thought of that; it's not "Kaneki didn't think of that," it's not "Kaneki can't think for shit", nobody thought of that. You want to blame somebody, blame everybody.

Finally...I were you, I wouldn't trust that "feeling", Valyrie. There'd be absolutely no sense to killilng off Kaneki and replacing him with a female character just so he can get with Hide, neither would it make sense for a female version of Kaneki to exist, neither would it actually change anything; you'd just be replacing a character you didn't like with the exact same character but female.