Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-27815053-20161112171906/@comment-26331887-20161113053352

Well,we can only be sure now that it was because of Kaneki's interception that saved them because Ishida choose to show it now.When we read that part back in Anteiku we didn't see jackshit about their survival.

You see the point?In the end, we can only assume what has really happened, because Ishida chose to not show the end result right there. Irimi and Koma could very well be dead or they could have been alive, considering we didn't seen their dead bodies in V14,but it's heavily implied that they pass through V14(which they did) and got killed along with their gang members.However,it's still turned out that they're alive didn't we? And we've only found out recently too.

So in the end, Hide's death is still only implied  and not outright stated .He could've been dead just like you said (and you could be right)  but we choose to believe he is still alive because Ishida hadn't fill in the gap with Hide in V14 yet and also due to all the little hints scattered around :re too.