Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-119.94.230.252-20141126093026/@comment-97.125.147.84-20141127005403

I would have to give kaneki the win. Kaneki broke ixa and can take a special class investigator at the end of TG. He beat I believe one first class, two associate special, and one special class investigator to "save" irimi and koma, then beat amon. Suzuya has to be at least 2 times stronger than shinohara to even stand a chance. The only notable ghoul suzuya took down was yamori, and he was basically dead after kaneki beat the hell out of him. I don't mean to short hand suzuya but kaneki in full control of his powers is about 2/3 as strong as yoshimura, if not more, and last time I checked, suzuya got his leg cut off at that level of a fight. Unless he has improved dramatically (which is possible) he doesn't really have a fighting chance. I would estimate suzuyas fighting strength is nishio in re, which is strong as fuck, but still not kaneki's level. I have to give it to kaneki until we're proven otherwise in the manga.