Talk:Big Madam/@comment-26841482-20150824063222/@comment-10733658-20150824064335

Well, they state that Big Madam's ranking is partially based on her influence. She also states she hasn't fought in a while.

Shachi, on the other hand, has devoted his life to training in the martial arts. Even Kaneki couldn't beat him, and it seems he mentored Ayato during the time skip.

So Shachi would win, since he's an extremely powerful and skilled fighter.