Talk:Juuzou Suzuya/@comment-115.66.237.219-20150205174851/@comment-69.172.95.68-20150206150921

For the record, I'm a different commenter than OP here and have already gone through this discussion elsewhere, so let's put an end to it.

First off: "lol, you're clearly not a manga reader" Same to you anon. From their very debut in the manga they used two Rinkaku tendrils to give even Kaneki trouble.

Now for the actual fight... Apologies for the weird format since I'm copying and pasting this from my other post.

"I can't and don't want to deny how good he is, especially considering what *legitimate* awesomeness it leads to in RE... Now then:

His first surprise knife was totally understandable given that they were rushing at him. He would definitely have experience in dismantling your typical Ghoul, too. Also, Kuro is definitely more skilled, or at least aware than Shiro in battle to some degree.

However, he suddenly warps to Kuro without Shiro (who's supposed to be only a few steps away) taking any damage. Either she didn't try to stop him from getting to Kuro or Juuzou has teleportation level speed like Eto.

While Bikaku Kagune usually trumps Rinkaku, we're dealing with knives that are nothing like the original. Granted, Bikaku can apparently stop Rinkaku regeneration if it breaks it/cuts it off as we've seen in the manga (Kaneki vs Amon final battle), but Kurona's Rinkaku wasn't broken and even if it was hers has enhanced regeneration because of you-know-who's organs being transplanted

BUT let's still say that was all legitimate. There's also the matter of his scythe getting knocked away. It gets knocked far to the right of Kurona and Shiro. By the time Juuzo is stabbing Kurona repeatedly he's moved positions twice and is almost twice as far away as when he was knocked away. Somehow, he manages to get to his scythe and spin the bloody thing before Shiro can get even to him. You definitely need Eto's teleportation level speed for that.

A bit of a tangent here, but Shiro had better not die for real. If you have a Rinkaku the Kakuhou is located on the back around the waist. Juuzou rather neatly cuts through her chest and not all that deeply, but likely enough to give her trouble breathing if her enhanced regeneration on behalf of you-know-who didn't kick in (for some reason). Even if Juuzou had hit the waist horizontally the cut would have to be much deeper, enough for Shiro to be almost hanging in half. So she should honestly be fine, meaning doctor you-know-who is an even bigger douche for saying she can't be saved...

The last thing I want to mention is how the two of them suddenly changed to head-on fighters as opposed to being dodgy and even stealthy (which they're definitely good at) like they were with Kaneki and even Eto, minus stealth since she's so fast. Someone mentioned they might have been angry thinking about Juuzou or even holding back because they used to know him though.

So, this is why I see this fight as nothing more than another "crazy character pandering, hype the psychopath character" kind of fight, though, it's a lot less obvious than in other series that make the psycho seem powerful. It is literally the only fight that made no sense in the entire series and the anime just made it seem even more unbalanced with Juuzou not getting his stomach cut open or hurt at all.

I also question why Kurona and Shiro only use one of their two Rinkaku in the anime. Hopefully, it means we'll see more of their actual potential later on in the anime when they use two."