Talk:Re: Chapter 82/@comment-178.61.181.38-20160625145722/@comment-27109888-20160625165829

''  In short, Rize is the one deserving the cred for putting Eto in her current state, Not Furuta, since it appears that he just let it loose and let it do all the work for him. ''

Ok, this doesn't make sense. It's not like Rize's kagune was moving by itself and casually defeated Eto as Furuta was standing still. You have to control the kagune, to use it as a weapon, and this requires ability. In a fight, you have to evade, to read your opponent's movements, to attack at the right time, to have good reflexes, etc. We've seen Furuta kind of fighting before, and he's very skilled.

Kagunes, quinques, they're weapons. Ok, Rize's kagune is indeed strong, but so is Eto's. And so are Arima's quinques.

If Furuta defeated Eto (which is an exceptional fighter) it's thanks to the strenght of his kagune + his abilities in combat. The credit, logically, goes to him.