Talk:Koutarou Amon/@comment-73.252.180.8-20161123085156/@comment-73.252.180.8-20161125223919

Samthe asexual, training yourself indeed does get you stronger, but not at that rate. Urie and Mutsuki got themselves stronger in an absurd amount of time. First of all, Urie has it much more easily since he has a SS rated quinque doing all the work for him WHICH was mainly due to Shirazu's effort and sacrifice. Second of all, Urie and Mutsuki both literally have regular kagunes unlike Kaneki and Takizawa who has recieved theirs from a powerful ghoul. Wait a second... Wouldn't that mean Kaneki and Takizawa also have it much more easy in fights? Nope, not only are they more relied on, they're also put out on the front line much more often, fighting very powerful opponents each time. If you think about it, the quinx squad only had fodder the entire time excluding Noro. You can't get to be as strong as Takizawa and Amon from simply having taken down fodder. It wouldn't make sense at all lol.

You can train and train and that'll make you stronger, but that should definitely not be even a quarter more effective than improving yourself by fighting more powerful opponents all the time.

Simply having a regular killer's instinct like Mutsuki does not make you strong. In simply 2 short years and having just barelyyyyy fought Noro, his/her strongest opponent, she went from the weakest ghoul investigator to being Amon's level. Also, she was tortured by a normal A rated ghoul. Kaneki was tortured by a S rated one who has a half kakuja WHICH Kaneki cannibalized on. Because of Kaneki's superior intellect, he can also tactically take down opponents and learn how to fight at a quick rate which is benefitted from all the times he had fought strong ghouls.

The quinque is a ghoul's main source of strength. Hand to hand combat skill isn't enough alone. It is only enough to get you to Shachi's level which is a simple SS rate. The only way a ghoul or half ghoul can become absurdly stronger in a short period of time is by cannibalizing A LOT, and not only cannabalizing ghouls, but from also consuming kakujas which speeds up the process of how they can evolve their kagune/kakuja.