Talk:Akira Mado/@comment-27704373-20170402174054/@comment-27247962-20170404105950

@Luna Amatista

You make some great points & I certainly agree with the brunt of it. But I have to say that I see your conclusion differently. I'll start off by taking your own words in my mouth: You are equating our world to the world of Tokyo Ghoul, while they are not the same.

1. Breaking the cycle of violence is wishful thinking, because breaking it wouldn't solve a thing. By breaking it we'll be back at a stalemate, where it's waiting 'til a ghoul eats a human again, allowing humans to retaliate. Do you think the choice will be any different this time?

2. "An eye for an eye makes the world blind." is true if we were to consider our own world logic. Because the idiom only applies to us humans if we use. In the TG world it applies to two different species. So instead of 2 eyes, we have to take in consideration 4 eyes. In the TG world this wouldn't equate to being blind, but having each lost 1 eye. Now you can ask with another idiom "Should humanity turn it's other cheek"? That sounds like the more pressing question for humans in this world. Which would make the cycle round, cuz humans would choose violence 9/10 times. From my second point, we go back to my first point & depending on the answer given when the cycle of violence is broken: ''"Do you think the choice will be any different this time?" ''when a ghoul takes an eye again? Will he turn his other cheek this time?

The conclusion you inevitably come to, is that violence can't be seperated from the issue as long as humans are the nutrients of ghouls. So if it's impossible to find a human substitute for food, then violence will solve or break the cycle eventually. Either humans exterminate all ghouls & go back to controlling the world & trampling on every other species or Ghouls exterminate all humans & are forced to cannibalize. But there are pro's when the ghouls win: They won't overpopulate & they won't trample over nature, like humanity does.

HUMANITY IS EVIL:

The evil nature of humans still shines through. If it was solely self-defense then CCG would kill ghouls & stop there. But instead human greed takes over again: Let's test them, let's experiment, let's create our own 'ghouls',...

The Oggai are the evil side of Human & Ghoul mixed together. It's not self-defense in the case of the Oggai. More like a human tool for revenge (in a sense; all the human lives already lost)... suffering... & extermination in the form of a child.

I belief self-defense isn't really applicable anymore when the predator is the one being exterminated. & what will become of the Oggai ones ghouls are exterminated or what will become of humans ones the Oggai start to notice the power they have or can have over others?

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Humans are pigs that can fight back. & Ghouls who eat human pigs are bad, while humans who eat pigs are good. Why? Because pigs don't have a morality?

Humanity tramples all over nature, while ghoul's only trample on one species. If a ghoul eats a mother on the other side of the world, can you say it fazes you or makes you sad that a human life is lost? I'm sure you can empathize with it, maybe because you're scared for your own life. I for one can't really consider ghouls much of a threat, except a blessing so to say. If you're as a human somewhat concerned about the environment & let's say the environmental issues in our world are the same as the environmental issues in the TG world, then I fail to see how ghouls will exterminate us, before nature does it. And the only ones to blame for our own demise will be us. Ghoul's eating humans, is somewhat going to stabilize the global system. Why? Humans need a lot more of what nature provides, then ghouls do. This allows ghouls to look at nature from an empathic perspective, because there are enough humans to sit tight for awhile. They could create Human farms, just like we created pigfarms & all the other farms. Ghouls will only need Human farms, creating space for nature to grow once again. And to abide by Wiki Guide Rules, i'm not going to specify why this wouldn't be such a bad life for humans, but trust me humans would enjoy the heck out of it.

And with that said it's only matter of "Turning the other cheek." & humanity will have cleansed themselves from all the sins they have ever commited. In the TG world that is, something convenient as ghouls doesn't exist in our world.