Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-32992736-20171003192621/@comment-87.64.45.32-20171004171519

Here we go again, TG can't be criticized because it's seinen. Just stop with that weak logic already, not every seinen are well writen stories and they are cetainly not inerently better than shonens. Good shonens (like Hunter x Hunter) are better than many seinens I have read. And shonen and seinen AREN'T genres! It just tells what is the target audience the publisher has determined for the series, and what to sell to which kind of audience varies from one publisher to the other, so there is no clear cut between the two categories. Death Note is shonen for example while many people believe it to be seinen because of its darkness and "maturity".

Also, a story being "realistic" is not automatically a good story. Even with realism, a story still has to be consistent, handle its themes well, properly develop its characters,.. But I don't even consider TG to be really realistic in the first place, it has it's fare share of asspulls as well, all those Kakuja transformations, emotion induced power ups Unkillable protagonists, many characters that would have died in an actually realistic story (Hinami, Akira, Urie, Kaneki multiple times, ...).

And I don't agree with the "humans always repeat the same mistakes" claim. Only idiots always repeat the same mistakes, which Kaneki is apparently. Inteligent people learn for their mistakes and civilisations progressed by learning from their History. Getting back to Kaneki: a tragic hero is one you feel sorry for because he got struck in a terrible situation while not "deserving" it. Kaneki was that at first but now he got himself in is current predicament because of his own terrible choices, now I don't feel sorry but annoyed at him. Tragic heroes are victims of the world they live in. Kaneki is just victim of his own stupidity.

PS: I'm the guy who posted the first reply, the "tragic hero =/= lame mc..." post. The other anon replies aren't from me.