Talk:Re: Chapter 54/@comment-26986431-20151122134117/@comment-27143318-20151122144222

@Anon

The quality of the kakuhou doesn't matter. Every new one-eyed starts off weak - for reference, check Kaneki. He inherited Rize's kagune, but he could only use three tentacles (in contrast to Rize's six) and the only time he actually used them properly was against Touka when he was driven insane by hunger (and still got crushed) - in other times his kagune was very... scrawny looking, as noted by his opponents. As to Saiko, a big kagune doesn't equal a good kagune, so that's something to note as well.

I don't know how you managed to confirm that Shirazu broke "all frames" since this isn't stated anywhere and we see one frame break. We don't know if it was one of the inner frames or the outer frame. Eye colours can be misleading so I'd rather wait it out. That aside, my reference to "nakama power" was Noro "dying", not the frame breaking. As I said, Noro is SS~. One with extreme regeneration. Even a really strong ghoul, not just any ghoul, but a very powerful one, wouldn't be able to kill him. Even if Shirazu used 100% of his kagune (although that's not necessarily much - Kaneki's original "100%" was a crappy 3 tentacled Rinkaku) he shouldn't have been able to kill Noro. Unless he has plot armor, which is possible, but not probable.