Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-72.177.208.28-20160313060619/@comment-27361104-20160313143524

3rd anon is completely right. Haise is not weak, he was just always in conflict with himself, don't people read the chapters anymore? The dude has skills former Kaneki never dreamt of having. One thing you have to have in mind, Haise was growing stronger as the chapters progressed because that conflict was slowly getting resolved. The Haise that fought Takizawa is very much stronger than the one that fought Nishiki. The Haise that fought Tsukiyama is also stronger than the one that fought Takizawa (this is arguable because he never wanted to fight Tsuki in the first place). The Haise that fought enhanced Kanae is definitely stronger that the former Haises (I am willing to bet enhanced Kanae is many times stronger than Takizawa). When he kicked Kanae's head off, she comented that he seemed like a different person to the one she was trashing. He was gradually changing. So when you are talking about Haise's fighting power, specify which point in time you are talking about.

Is Haise (Kanae vs Haise Lvl) stronger than Centipede? No, I doubt Kanae can scratch Arima. I believe centipede would overwhelm Haise with his Kagune but the difference, due to the skills Haise acquired from Arima, is not like heaven and earth.