Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-81.105.191.188-20150426175143/@comment-69.160.118.138-20150427191526

@Magister Revelations

I have to disagree with you on how Touka felt about Hinami and why she attacked the Doves. Touka put her life on the line just by going to CCG to ensure that CCG would not find Hinami. I mean Touka went into the enemy’s nest for 2 reasons, 1 was to stir up rumors about Hinami and the other was to see just how much info CCG had on Hinami. Those 2 reason revolved around Hinami and that is a fact! Do you really think if Touka did not care about Hinami she would put her life on the line like that?

Anyone here can agree that Touka’s action was one of the factors that attracted the Dove to the 20th ward. But if Touka really hated the CCG as much as you say she did then she is not showing her hate a lot. I say this because Touka could have attacked CCG long before Hinami’s mother was killed by them and before the 4 investigators saw Hinami’s face. If it were not for those events Touka would have not went to CCG and stir up false rumor about her now would she? Why did Touka wait for this specific event to start her hate crime on them?

Secondly if she really did it for revenge why stop after the Dove arc concluded? Why didn’t she continue to spread false rumor about some crap after wards? Why did she not continue to attack the CCG investigators? Not all investigators are as strong as Mado was and not all of them have a quinqie some have Q-bullets but even so Touka did not kill any more that those involve in Hinami’s mother death and those that saw Hinami’s face. Touka does hate the CCG but she loves the people closer to her and her life style much more than she hates them. I would say that it was her poor up-bringing, not having any good role model for much of her life compelled to act in revenge on behalf of Hinami, Touka already is aware that killing is wrong she even said so herself. But the doves she attacked were the only ones that saw Hinami’s face and they could probably point her out if they see her anywhere. Touka was just making sure that something like that does not happen.

I also have to disagree with your reason as to why she ends up alone. Touka’s character has nothing to do with it. She didn’t cause her parents to be targeted by the CCG when she was young, that’s just the way a ghoul life is. Ayato did not want that peaceful life she was seeking, and unlike Touka, Ayato could not get over his hatred of humans because of what they did to him and her when they were little. Touka does not blame all humans for what a few did to them like Ayato did (or still does), she has even said that she knows that not all of them (humans) are bad. Ayato left because he could not trust humans and did not understand why Touka wanted to mingle with them, once again not her fault. Kaneki left because he did not want her to encounter anymore danger than what a normal ghoul had to go through and to protect everyone else, again it was Kaneki’s decision to leave, Touka did not outright cause it, though some of his reasoning revolve around her. And Yoshimura was captured by Aogiri, we all know he fought against the CCG because he wanted to pay for his sins and told everyone else to run because he wanted them to have a future. If Yomo and Touka got away then I’m pretty sure if Yoshimura ran as well he would have escape.

To the OP, yeah I do somewhat agree that her development was reverse of Kaneki’s but we didn’t really see much of her after the Aogiri arc. I’m more interested about that nice girl act she has going on in TG:re and if it is really an act.



@Harostar

Some people over at Batoto believes that Roma was the one that filled CCG in about Owl’s connection to Anteiku and we saw in the anime that Eto was the one that told CCG about it. Of course the anime aside it is still a mystery and Roma being a suspect for it is all a speculation.