Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-108.28.7.188-20150706133940/@comment-25047329-20150707054705

^^I think some of your criticism is valid anon, but it probably would have helped if you started the topic this way rather than leave it so vague. I think Touka is a very flawed as a person and understand the dislike for her, but such topics should probably be approached cautiously since legit criticism can be be lost in blind hate. Then unfortunately, whatever valid points may have been made also get lost.

1)Isn't that a bit contradictory? Saying that it's simple minded to try and "understand" a character because it's entertainment media that is. In order to jugde something, it has to be understood first.

2)This is fairly true. I think her actions were understandable, but what she did was still terrible. She was able to get through to Kaneki, but he was so broken and lost at that point it partly comes across as him submitting to her whims because she was upset and he didn't want to hurt her further. She does get the benefit of the doubt though because Touka does know what she did was terrible. She doesn't try to justify herself because she knew she was in the wrong and she doesn't need anybody to tell her that. Not that there would have anybody to do so because the only people who knew what happened on the bridge were her and Kaneki. Kankei is the only person who could maybe confront her about it in the future, but I kind of doubt it.

3)Not sure what to say about this since I'm not familiar with the series you mentioned. As for Touka specifically and her role as "house wife"...I'm not sure how to analyze it from a "sexist" standpoint. For one thing, we're still not entirely sure what she's doing. We're meant to assume that she took up Yoshimura's role, so is working to create a place that will serve as a hub for humans and ghouls to gather and promote peace while extending a hand to ghouls who need help. Even her waiting for Kaneki is more of a Yoshimura parallel since he spent half his life waiting for Eto to come home. In this way it only seems "sexist" because Touka is female, but she so far seems to be following Yoshimura's example. She also seems to have other things going on, like running a buisness, and seeing as she's leaving the choice to come back home to Kaneki and not forcing him, she also seems to have come to terms with the idea that he may not want to come back. She'll have a place waiting for him if he decides to return, but is aware that he has his own life now and she goes on with hers.