Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-27143318-20151031170043/@comment-27143318-20151102004306

@Anon

TBH I did enjoy the time when Touka was actually considered decently strong (in other words the first five episodes or 30-something chapters) and wasn't weaker than essentially every character in the show, but it's not really about that - it's actually about all of her character development and her entire personality being thrown away for the sake of... nothing. I would've understood if Ishida changed her character but the new Touka seemingly retains no traits of her past self whatsoever. I wouldn't have been able to tell that she's not a different character if she hadn't been referred to by name. I guess that's too early to judge - maybe Ishida didn't manage to represent her character as well in the 5-10 panels that she was featured in (I am patiently waiting for her to make an actual appearence, but to be fair she's probably had the least amount of screen time in :re after Yomo), but so far it's hard to tell and the fact that we see so little of her doesn't help. I do disagree with you about her not being a hypocrite though - Touka didn't give Kaneki a choice, she just said that if he ever regains his memories, he is free to come to :re and if she had decided the opposite I'd probably have been done with that character forever. Either way, she still didn't give Kaneki a choice because he needs his memories to actually make a choice. If he's got his memories back, then he could easily decide whether to go back to :re or to stay at the CCG. What Touka does is she decides in his stead that he doesn't need his memories or the right to make a choice and doesn't help him remember even though he has the full right to remember because, again, on her own, she's decided that Kaneki needs protection. Conceptually that's just the same as the bridge scene where Kaneki decided in behalf of others that they need protection and acted against their wishes in the process.