Talk:Re: Chapter 56/@comment-90.204.177.135-20151207150723/@comment-27308353-20151209133926

..... I never said that raw power made a character the strongest. Your argument about Arima not cannibalizing is insanely irrelevant. Arima is an investigator and focuses on using a Quinque to it's fullest potential, Kaneki does the opposite and uses a Quinque more as support but his primary weapon is his Kagune. My point about the amount of RC cells and cannibalizing that Eto has done should make her Kagune insanely durable and a lot more stronger than Kaneki's who is very limited on eating ghoul/human meat in general. We've seen what eating does for ghouls, it gives them a great boost in raw power and regeneration, with both of those at her disposal she didn't show any display of it at all leading me to believe she did not fight with hostility.

Your only points for backing up Eto being serious was the fact that she lost control and was blurting out random words / Asking Kaneki if he is stronger than Arima. You're ignoring all aspects about the story, Eto has been shown to be a calm analyzer and intellectual fighter shown when she read Kanae like a book. She did NOT fight Arima long enough for us to know how it would've went yet you somehow got it in your head that her sole intent was to kill Arima, recalling that fight it seemed like her main goal was to get Yoshimura while picking at Arima to see if she could land a hit i.e. her main objective was to escape. She didn't lose control to hunger after getting injured by Arima, so why would she after getting injured by Kaneki ? Because he is a half ghoul like her ? What an insult to Ishida's work and I would say hell no.

You're undermining the logistics of Tokyo Ghoul, if Eto is in possession of this insane regenerative/raw power and she didn't use it against Kaneki isn't that the same as not taking the fight serious ? Eto asking Kaneki who is stronger doesn't mean she's going to fight Kaneki with intention to kill him. You do realize she did a number of things to mess with his mind as well as electing to "lick his eye" rather than using that oppurtunity to take a stab at him. She was only saying I love you and messing with his mind because Kaneki has stated before that he is emotionally weak. Don't forget that Eto has fought countless investigators in the past, so all these excuses about her losing control just makes no sense with her extended battle experience in general.

Anyways, yes I believe she lost to Kaneki in terms of  the actual fight. But as I said before it will be a huge plot hole if Kaneki had already gained a Kagune stronger than hers prior to eating her Kakuja. After part 1 TG he had an SS rated Kagune fully liberated, from what we know about TG :Re he has learned to control his kagune, gained battle experience, and has the knowledge of Arima, but in no way has he improved overall raw power. The last we saw of his raw power rating was against Takizawa which ended in a draw, meaning his Kagune would still be rated somewhere around SS prior to eating Eto's Kakuja. So my statement stands that Eto didn't truly fight to the best of her abilities on purpose. Imo she was hatching a plan to influence Kaneki and was never aiming to actually kill him