Talk:Re: Chapter 56/@comment-90.204.177.135-20151207150723

After reading the contrasting views of both Eto and Kaneki fans on this chapter and the outcome, I just couldn't help but post this.

Okay fine, I get it. Eto is an outstanding schemer and ghoul. It is fair to say she had ulterior motives coming her, even Kaneki had to ask. Anyway, we can also fairly say with some accuracy that she is not dead. I doubt she will fly as she is falling without her Kakuja like some people are suggesting but I bet Ishida will get creative.

The main issues for me are Eto's power and intentions, and Kaneki's power and intentions.

Some are saying Eto's intention was only to test Kaneki so she wasn't fighting with hostility. I would have agreed with this at the end of the last chapter but not after this one. Once her screws came loose, Kaneki dared not stand around, you saw it. This (http://www.mangamap.com/Tokyo_Ghoul_one/201/7/) can't be a joke or an attack without hostility. About the lick, my best guess is, her reasoning came back after she got impailed so severely, (we didn't see any of the other Kagunes talking at that point right?) so with her remaining vitality, she expressed her love.

Some are saying she could have fought Kaneki in this form or that form. Remember that not only did she fight Arima in this Owl form, she even went one level up when Kaneki almost split her head open (I am referring to crazy mode). If you still insist on form, then I ask, was she going easy on Arima? Don't say yes because you will be opening a can of worms. I can then go and say Kaneki went easy on Arima too. There are very sound theories about him liking being hit. There is also the fact that he wanted to die...can you see that the argument starts getting funny at this point? so let's not go there. Bottom line - Eto and Kaneki did not go easy on Arima.

Did Kaneki go easy on Eto? Let's consider this for a moment. Kaneki did not kill Yamori right? If he did not kill someone as vile as Yamori (utter scum), why would he kill Eto? I want to say he didn't want to kill her but he did just genuinely try to loop off her head last chapter so honestly, we would have to ask Kaneki. One thing we can be sure of - this is a new Kaneki and not much from the past can be used to predict what he will do.

I think the outrage stems mainly from the fact that Kaneki fought with one hand and did not use his Kakuja but still defeated her with relative easy. Let me take a stab at this. First, relative to what? the white haired Kaneki's fighting style? This is a new Kaneki who retained skills from Arima's training. Even when he was Haise, he killed ghouls relatively easily and fought Takizawa to a stalemate...Its not far from equiping Arima with a Kakuhou (scary thought). In terms of maneuvering, he is almost as good as Arima. Now he has full access to his Kagune. Ui even commented that Haise knew how to use his kagune better than a ghoul. I don't think his missing arm mattered. It didn't stop him from doing flips and he sure as hell wasn't going to pierce a Kakuja with his hands. Long story short - New Kaneki = new level because of Arima training and his liberated mind. Don't be shocked, we have seen it before, Eto is weak against people that fight like this.

There will be many antagonists in the series, afterall, Eto was actually being hidden from an organisation. Eto is a central player so I bet she is not dead but let dail the bias down a little. Eto may not have wanted to kill Kaneki, but you can't say she was going easy on him. If you are allowed to say that, then I can equally say that Kaneki was going easy on her because of his promise to her father or because he didn't use his Kakuja. The problem with both arguments are that Kaneki tried to take off her head in this fight and we can see the way she went at him.

What do you think?