Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-209.175.72.4-20151021211255/@comment-68.32.116.146-20151022012958

Dalaios, how would having Yomo and Uta be physically stronger than Kaneki resolve difficulties with the CCG and Aogiri? I expect that Arima is 'stronger' than Kaneki, and a number of CCG agents using teamwork could also defeat Kaneki.

For Aogiri, I expect Eto, Noro, and Tartara to all be stronger than Kaneki. When Kaneki doesn't have his mind in the game Seidou can beat him. For character symmetry I expect Amo...The Robed Giant to equal Kaneki in power.

So even if Yomo and Uta are stronger, I don't see how they could defeat the CCG and/or Aogiri with their power alone. We have seen Yomo spar and teach Kaneki, and we've seen him show levels comparable to current Ayato, in his flaseback to his fight with Arima. I expect that Yomo has only gotten better.

Uta, may or may not be physically powerful, but he is strategically op. In a manga where black and white checks symbolically lurk everywhere, Uta seems to be the only character with a chess game. Could he be pulling the strings? We have seen Uta fight a number of times, and he was quite good. We have just never seen him fight with his kagune.

The themes of the manga lead me to think that Kaneki, is only middling powerful, and that he may never approach 'most powerful' individually. Eto is the one that approachs 'most powerful'.