Talk:Shuu Tsukiyama/@comment-78.31.225.17-20150528134838/@comment-10733658-20150613204613

^^^^ So Touka can't be forgiven, when she used to be a brutal thug that fought all the time? And admits she actually killed not for Hinami, but because she was angry?

Are Koma and Irimi impossible to forgive, since both were gang leaders that killed Investigators for lulz? Look at what Irimi did to Hachikawa, it's clear in her youth she was pretty horrible.

Yoshimura, as Kuzen, was an assassin and before that, he pretty much went around killing and cannibalizing.

Yomo was rampaging through the various wards, and turned the 4th Ward into a war zone until Yoshimura recruited him.

Nishiki nearly beats Hide and Kaneki death over a petty misunderstanding.

Kaneki tortured a kid, breaking half he bones in his body. (Remember, Ayato was maybe 14 at the time. He was a child, and Kaneki did it out of anger.)

Juuzou maimed Kuro, and then made her watch as he fatally wounded her sister.

Everyone has done some awful stuff in the series.

Besides that, we know that upper class Ghouls are a nasty lot. Slavery, torture, and maiming are all business as usual for them. Tsukiyama changes once he's left that world behind, which shows a lot of his behavior was based on the values he was raised with. But he developed beyond that, and learned to care about people.