Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-26331887-20150511103957/@comment-216.145.182.53-20150511175415

It's a freaking rank SS and S that Haise faced...It usually takes two or more veteran CCG investigator to take them down

and I would say using quinques is different from using kagune, probabbly like trying to fight with your right hand with what you learned with your left. I dont think Arima ever taught haise how to use kagune :v and haise's quinque training is just too inexperienced, not to mention the quinque itself is old old old and basic