Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-209.175.72.4-20151021211255/@comment-26940038-20151022020305

Since if they would be "stronger than Kaneki" they could have just teamed up with Kaneki to fight against anyone. They would be able to defeat any investigator, even Arima. And even if they wouldnt be able to take out Aogiri on their own they could at least defend themselves easily. Yamori, Ayato the Bin Brothers and others wouldnt be any problem.

And btw its the same with Noro and Tatara. We didnt see their strength yet. Noro just showed some amazing regenerative abilities, nothing more. Neither Uta, Yomo or even Tsukiyama were shocked by that, they werent scared in any way. We did see even less of Tatara. The only reason for him to be strong is because he is one of the leaders of Aogiri. Yeah, you can assume that he is strong, but thats all. He could be more of a strategic leader, too while Eto has the physical strength.

Wow, we have seen Yomo train Kaneki shortly after he became a ghoul. Even Touka did train Kaneki, does that mean she is stronger, too? He became like 10 times stronger since then. Nothing we saw of him leads to the conclusion that Yomo would be stronger than Kaneki. Kaneki managed to wound Arima and crack his Quinque even without his Kakuja and with his brain getting stabbed, what did Yomo accomplish?

And all we saw of Uta was him fighting against a bunch of B rated ghouls with Yomo and Shuu at his side. He managed it to heal his face pretty fast against Hirako and Juuzou, too. Thats all. We were talking about combat abilities, not about Uta´s ability to stay somewhat "neutral" while using others. Nothing that would make him worth being called an "overpowered" being. I would call it "being clever".

I never said that I believe Kaneki to be the strongest character. I dont believe that he will become the strongest character in the future either. Arima ist obviously stronger than him, same with Eto and Yoshimura. Tatara could be stronger than him, we dont know that. But other than that there is nobody who showed powers that are above Kaneki´s. And since he is getting stronger constantly I am assuming that it will stay like that.

You know, If I am starting a discussion about who is the strongest character I am using evidence which is shown in the Manga. I dont just say "I assume Uta, Yomo and Noro are op as fuck" and call that a fact.