Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-27376148-20161113121538/@comment-27376148-20161114180122

@ dayne you got to a point in that relationship thats quite alarming bc throughout the story it has been shown that despite their extreme drive towards each other they werent able to talk to each other and never have been completly hide always kept stuff to himself and only knew what was going on with kaneki bc hes good at reading ppl and kaneki in paritcular. but there are things you cant show but tell so to hide was probably also stuff lost. which is why their relationship and characters in particular still needed developement. yes hide might have been kanekis helathiest relationship BUT it was still far from perfect bc they were both stuck in their developement bc kaneki wouldnt change on his own and hide couldnt force him to bc kaneki needed his support hence things have to happen to kaneki without hide for him to mature (same for hide) and then they could actually work out better and start talking to each other at that point we could see what would happen if they were to work together as a team HOWEVER that wouldnt ever be the case if hide was actually dead

@vortex void as much as i hate it currently ishida is very careful with writing a character and i doubt he made only hide the protags best friend to be a plot device - yes hes someone kaneki aspires to be BUT only his idealized image of hide - kaneki never actually grasped what kind of person hide truly is bc he just wanted to glorify him bc his actions seem too good to him (and we all know how romantic kaneki is he can overexaggerate things)

so if hide was only a plot device then he might be dead

but since im doubting that im pretty sure hell come back alive and represent himself likely different, changed or kaneki will simply realized he hasnt seen the entire picture before but only what he wanted to see - im totally abroad of the idea that hide is selfless etc but also think that this is not everything to him to be some distorted glorified picture of a saviour that kaneki makes him to be - hes just a human like everyone else

in short im expecting sth along those lines where kaneki met rize for the second time when he realized shes not always that strong independent women but a overgrown child pretty much facing a dead end and screaming for her protector figure aka makeshift father aka shachi