Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-24.74.64.155-20160704071238/@comment-210.186.54.79-20160704093346

I dont have any beef in regards to any ship. It really bothers me how Touka is treated as a character especially when all they have to talk is her connection to Kaneki as love interest. Ppl have been downplaying Touka's relationship with Kaneki just because her lack of appearance ever since start of :re. In all honesty, I dont really care about pairing in this manga since there are more things are more worth to be paid attention to (well i do ship Touken, Ayahina, EtoxEveryone, ArimaxEveryone but hey I dont go around saying how this is better than that or anything), but some of the comments here just rubs me in the wrong way especially when people start comparing Touka to other character.

I believe I dont even go that deep into the shipping mess, I mean, I was just pointing out the treatment Touka gets as result of being half of pair in a ship( I can list a hell of Kaneki/Touka hints but lets no go over there) But true, it's a real disappointment what ever ppl talk about her here is her ship with Kaneki when there is so much more to her character than a mere love interest or the typical tsundere. I guess it couldnt be helped since her involvement in :re so far closely revolves around Kaneki(altho I disagree since Touka refrains herself from approaching Kaneki in the manga)and that topic garners more attention than let's say, if we talk about the Kirishima family, or Touka/Yoriko friendship or Touka/Hinami sister bond. And what disappointed me the most, those topics always end up being a place to degrade her character and in the end those ppl pinpoint her flaws and to the certain extent, they felt better off bashing her instead.

it seems ppl wont be satisfied with however Ishida handles her character; I always chuckled with ppl expectation whenever she appears, like they were expecting the old brash Touka to resurface but in the end, Ishida proves them wrong countless of times :D Idk if this got to do with how Touka manages to get up everytime, and potrayed having less difficulties, living a peaceful life than any other character, but i got the gut feeling some ppl just wanna see her suffers and punished as much as the other characters D;

I hope I wont come as hostile or anything, but I dont expect 'nice' replies here and I notice that some of the frequent posters here are really good in passive-aggresive arguments that really turn me off from any other discussion about Touka here. Funny since they come off as having quite displeased attitude talking abt the character but it seems that they check on her wiki and the comments more often than the fans itself.