Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-28147612-20160710045902/@comment-27376148-20160710213718

Oh Im glad youre agreeing with me.

For their relationship hmm to keep it short i do get sometimes ill feeling towards kaneki but in the end i know it wasnt his fault. It just feels kind of toxic on hides end for me sometimes? Like Kaneki gains an extreme amount of love, acceptance and support from his relationship with hide throughout his journey (on a mental level most of the time) - while Hide is faced with rejection and abdonement on his side (for his protection - but he never got an explanation).

Hide never got reconfirmation of his friendship with Kaneki throughout TG (you could say "but he knows bc he knows that kaneki appreciates him" but does he rly?), he was always used in a sense. He always gave something, did sth for Kaneki but imo it hasent yet been shown that Kaneki gave something back. Kaneki probably needed always support bc of his constant abusive enviroment so im doubting there was ever room for hides own worries (kaneki being a good chunk of it) and problems in that relationship. It just seems unbalanced for me. It seems to me that it must have been draining for Hide to always help, support kaneki - basically mothering him bc no one else did while he himself never appeared to have someone to rely on.

Kaneki obv profited from this friendship - just Hides end is ... questionable. Sure you could just say "hes happy when kaneki is happy" but first of all kaneki barely is, second it doesnt sound healthy hide happy for him even if he himself suffers of loneliness bc of it. (it was scratched on in root a - while it didnt follow ishidas drafts im pretty sure the writers were in contact with sensei and had a good idea abt the charas)