Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-26653902-20151108213555/@comment-26940038-20151109023842

Oh come on, you are just putting everything like you want it to be. Just provocation, just training. You could say as well that nothing what Arima says or does is true.

It doesnt matter if you believe that Arima is an angel or not. You are still in denial of what Arima thinks about Kaneki. That Kaneki is just a weapon for Arima which he trains to become stronger himself. At least thats what we saw and what he said, everything else are just assumptions in favor of a character you like.

He was in such traumatic situations before and didnt say something like that. He said "Kill Arima." after remembering being treated like that, not after he got tortured by Seidou for example. And since when is Kaneki a parrot which repeats exactly what he said during training? Why didnt he do that before?

Yeah, maybe he started to care about Kaneki, that still doesnt change the meaning of what we saw in the last chapter. If Sasaki would be fine with Arima now I dont think he would be as tramatized like he is.

You can believe whatever you want, but your thinking is in no way objective. Sugarcoating anything no matter what you get to see just because its a certain character.

I mean you can believe whatever you want and I cant proof you wrong either. But I for myself stay objective and until Ishida shows us a different, positive side of Arima I will look at him as a sadistic, cruel and egoistic person. Thats how it works usually.