Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-26232562-20150529090108/@comment-25047329-20150529150737

The trouble is is that we don't really have a full gauge on Sasaki's and Seidou's strength as we haven't seen either of them go full out yet. Last we saw Kaneki use his full strength was at the Anteiku Raid, but that was two years ago. Seidou was tossing Sasaki around like a rag doll and beating investigators without breaking a sweat until the fight with Hinami finally drove him to pull out his Kakuja, but we haven't seen what he can really do with it.

If we finally get a consecutive Banana vs. Pineapple fight without out either of them holding back, that'll be the first time we see what they can really do.