Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-25742728-20150413192923/@comment-10733658-20150413210826

The Nishiki fight is a good example of the differences in strength between normal Haise and Kaneki. When he's still in control as Haise, he visibly struggles against Nishiki (an S~ rated Ghoul). But once he loses control and Kaneki starts emerging, the fight changes dramatically with Nishiki making note that even the quality of his kagune changes.

So from this we can conclude:


 * Haise fully in control = Weaker than an S~ Rated Ghoul
 * Haise, losing control/Kaneki = High-rated SS Ghoul.