Talk:Uta/@comment-173.51.123.215-20140918022205/@comment-173.51.123.215-20140919074622

^ You are right. Before the Aorigi arc, he was having bad luck being the victim of Rize since Souta only wanted to get Rize and Kaneki happened to be here, Tsukiyama was interested in him and Kaneki ended up in the Gourmet restaurant, Yamori had an interest in him as well since Kaneki had Rize’s regen ability. However after the Aorigi arc, his downfall happened because of his selfishness and he indeed deserved it. Many of his friends/family did try to encourage him not to go:

_ Bajou: I want you to be saved.

_ Nishiki: It’s ok to keep on living.

_ Hinami: I want you to come back to Anteiku.

_ Tsukiyama: Would you please not go?

_ Touka: You pretend to care about other people, but in the end, it’s all about you.

So you see all those people begged him to stay alive but Kaneki brushed them off, He was being selfish, not selfless and ended up like his mom, dead. I don’t know if there is a redemption arc but Kaneki did get what he deserve. It’s a great moral lesson from Ishida: keep being selfless and you will end up hurting yourself. It was very well executed in chapter 140.

The OP guy said something about the “Speedreaders” and from what I can understand, you guys were really rushing it and not learning anything from the manga. Tokyo Ghoul is all about the detail and sometimes it’s more enjoyable to understand what is happening instead of catching up with the mainstream. I have been reading TG raw for two years and I take my time analyzing stuffs and if you do like me, you will realize Tokyo Ghoul is a gray world: Kaneki is the MC but he’s neither hero nor villain, Uta is neither hero nor villain, CCG is neither the hero nor the villain, Ghoul is neither hero nor villain. They are more realistic and we can see ourselves in them, just like how we some of my friends have been saying we are the clowns: we enjoy seeing people’s drama, their angst, their joy. It’s a play to us.

About Uta and the clown gang,  I don’t know if they were involved in the Anteiku raid or not. If no, they were just having fun laughing at other people but it doesn’t mean they it, they were an ass but not criminal. If yes, Kaneki still could have avoided this disaster if he listened to his friends. The Anteiku raid is actually an atonement arc to me: the manager/Irimi/Eiji paying for their sin in the past ( as explained very well in the manga, please read it slowly and think), CCG would eventually find out about the café anyway ( Shinohara and Juuzo recognized the rat tail when they came here) – it’s only a matter of time, and Kaneki – well he paid a hard price for it.

( I know the “deserved” word sound a bit harsh but I couldn’t find any better word in English… )