Talk:Seidou Takizawa/@comment-217.87.83.65-20150713112026/@comment-26509016-20150717123649

First of all, Seidou didn't go all-out in their fight, just as Kaneki. So we can't tell for sure.

Secondly, right now I assume Seidowl to be stronger. I can't say it enough times, but Kaneki, after canibalizing and training for half a year, became strong enough to fight dozens of top-tier investigators at once without any problem, defeated Amon (!) and was able to scratch Arima (!!) which is somewhat of a miracle for a ghoul.

Takizawa had a stronger body than Kaneki to begin with, due to him being an investigator (and a pretty good one, actually). Then Takizawa got the kakuhou of a stronger ghoul implanted than Kaneki did (I think it's clear that Yoshimura's kagune is overall stronger than Rize's). And Takizawa didn't just canibalize and train for half a year, he has been held captive for five times that amount of time, solely being tortured and trained to become as strong as possible, and he surely has been forced to canibalize as much as possible. So I would bet all my money on Seidowl.