Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-24.74.64.155-20160627041645/@comment-10733658-20160630143642

^ Are people honestly reading my words as saying "Touka did everything, it's all on her"? Because that wasn't my intention at all.

The point I have been trying to make is very simple, but apparently.....badly worded or too confusing for people to understand? I'm not certain which it is, but it seems like we're all going in circles over something that is very simple.

Ishida does not do things for no reason. Claiming that Touka's words didn't accomplish anything is stating that Ishida put that scene in for absolutely no reason at all. I mean, that is basically what is being argued when you say that Touka didn't accomplish anything and that scene is meaningless. It's saying that Ishida's choices were wrong, or that he threw that entire scene in for no reason at all.

Ishida chose to have Touka part ways with Kaneki in a specific fashion, using a phrase that in Japanese culture is connected to homecoming. It's the way families see each other off for the day, when people head off to work or school. It tells the person you expect to see them again, and is associated with homecoming.

No, Touka's words weren't a magic pill that fixed the issue. It was still there, and required a lot more for him to finally reach his current conclusion. It took a combination of efforts from multiple people, from Touka's words and Arima's threats/pushing, and finally seeing "Hide" as the voice of his will to live.

But Touka helped start that process. She's one piece of that puzzle, and her words in combination with Arima's constant pushing made him realize he had reasons to continue living. I don't know whether he would have come through with the same conclusions, if either person had not supported him in their own ways.

He needed someone to offer him something beyond just dying, and he needed someone willing to push him to fight. Without either piece, he may have just given up. But he had those vital pieces, and then his subconscious finally told him what he needed to hear in a form he'd accept it from -- Hide.