Talk:Re: Chapter 56/@comment-90.204.177.135-20151207150723/@comment-147.197.212.101-20151208123147

I don't think they enter a state of slumber or that it is a fact ghouls in Kakuja form lose their thoughts. When Eto fought the CCG (Shino, Ui, Juuzou and company) and Arima, she seemed to be mentally stable. This was also the case with Yoshimura and even Yamori. Although Yamori was enrage to botherline madness, he was never exactly operating with a full deck so there was not much difference.

Kaneki, however, is a special case. We already know he has profound mental issues so no need to go into details. Eto, who is very similar to Kaneki for reasons that are not completely clear to us at the moment, only lost control when Kaneki slashed her Kakuja's head in :re Chapter 55. It reformed but abnormally. Prior to that in :re Chapter 55, she was fine.

Having said all that, I can agree that Kaneki might have indeed decided not to use his Kakuja because it goes beserk. However, his kakuja going beserk has been associated with his mental issues in several theories. Now that we have a new seemingly clearminded Kaneki, who can say for sure that his Half-Kakuja would still make him lose control?

I am beginning to believe Eto was looking for someone worthy to take over from her, reason? who knows. That fight was a test: If Kaneki was strong enough to beat her, he would live and be a part of whatever she has planned. If not, he would die. I believe she upgraded Kanae/Karren at first to do the "testing" - she wanted Karren to beat Kaneki out of his "slumber" but since Haise was beginning to dominate Karren, Eto interferred.

Long story short - she wanted to awaken Kaneki and test him. The test - who is stronger between you and Arima?

Personally, I wouldn't be so fast to say he is stronger than or even as strong as Arima but isn't that what is being suggested since he beat Eto?

What do you think?