Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-26155961-20150228185909/@comment-176.158.53.10-20180219210520

41.114.136.74 wrote: Jason is the reason Kaneki overcame Rize's rule. Also for his own pleasure and research purposes. His methods were gruesome and unnecessary. But let's face it, if Jason didnt torture the living hell out of Kaneki he'd still be the loser, scared wimp he was in the first episodes so thank you Jason for making a man out of Kaneki Ken. (Excuse me for my medium level in English, I'm french)

I make the use of your up to say that I don't think the torture result is objectively good. I was myself really... like... sad to see Keneki's weakness at the beginning, but I'm more disapointed to see who (or what) he has become in the 2nd season. We really can think he doesn't care anymore about anything, particularely his relatives. He says he has to protect them, but the way he hurts Touka... makes me asking where could the real Ken go.

I just don't think that eating your torturer makes you becoming a man... At least not more than reject your family.