Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-3173617-20151006210835/@comment-26967758-20151007233206

Valyriefaery, I think you're overprioritising Eto's role in this manga. You try to compare her role to Rize, but Rize only had a few interactions with Kaneki himself, being more a thing to push the plot forward with him becoming a ghoul and searching for answers. Eto's the same. She's the leader of Aogiri, an organisation of ghouls that captured and tortured him. There's something explicit with your comments and theories everytime, and it's the constant implying that you want Kaneki to be tortured somehow.

Eto also just happens to be, by coincidence, the author of Kaneki's favourtie books. Just like how, by coincidence, Rize liked those books, which was what allowed Kaneki to talk to her with. If you see it as mere connections between one and dot and the next for the sake of moving the plot along, instead of some Shounen-esque villain plot point to get at the main character just because, then you'll have a much better time accepting the story as it is. Why does Eto have such a particular thing for Kaneki? Why would she kill him? Why would she seek to torture him again? Why would she be bothered with him at all? She's literally the strongest (as far as we've seen) ghoul around. She can make new toys left and right, just like how she proclaimed that they'll recreate Kaneki again with capturing Yoshimura and creating the monster that Seidou became, and with Kanae becoming Noro-fied. If she's already achieved the goal of doing something similar to what you want to see happen to Kaneki, why would she still go after him? Sure, I'm not denying the possibility, but it just feels like all of your theories, you're trying to link Kaneki to Eto in every way possible.

Kaneki was asked by Yoshimura to save her, and in his talks with Shuu recently as Sasaki about Sen Takatsuki's work, he's shown to understand her at a deeper level. If anything, their meeting is meant to be saved for the near climax or climax of the story, much like how Arima confronted Kaneki, who was suffering due to "the world having wronged him", much like how I feel he'll confront her, who's also felt like the world wronged her in some ways, so much so that she's even begun to proclaim herself as a God. For religious people, to reject the world God created, means your ego has thought of itself as being better and above God. Eto's trying to create a new world, by torturing ghouls or half ghouls, and Kaneki, who had already gone through that, won't need to be re-tortured, because he knows what lies at the end. It's all self delusion, and that even if she's trying to "teach" them that life is somewhat suffering, but that's not all the emotions that they have to hold on to. It didn't do Kaneki any good. If anything, :re will have a good, slight tragic end.

Also, again, this isn't a Shounen manga, and it's not written by Tite Kubo. Kaneki/Sasaki's not gonna be a Rinkaku/Koukaku/Ukaku/Bikaku/Kakuja user. Each character is special because of their uniqueness and circumstances. To add another character's speciality or skill into another character is to demean the existing construction that Ishida has established, unless they were originally intended that way, i.e. Hinami. I understand you, as a reader might be expecting these things. But this is where expectations meet reality. There's no way that some form of upgrade is going to happen Kaneki, all that's possible and waiting for him is a complete Kakuja, or as a CCG investigator, wearing an Arata of his own.