Talk:Seidou Takizawa/@comment-41.141.210.6-20150308000409/@comment-190.55.143.137-20150308162740

Even though most ghouls that get turned into a quinque don't go through the mental and physical torture that Seidou has probably gone through, we still have the case of Arata and Kaneki. Arata is probably alive and has been farmed for more armors for god knows how long, and Kaneki has been brainwashed into fighting his own comrades (didn't fight against Touka and company yet, but he could be ordered to at a moments notice)