Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-50.134.230.63-20141022045357/@comment-25502465-20141022060705

A.) To be completely blunt, the whole "nightmares about the past" and "Urie's suspicions" come off to me as asspulls. There are absolutely no clues up to this point that even HINT at these ideas. As far as we can tell Haise's mentality is just like Kaneki's. They are both seemingly very meek, but by nature they are simply not the types you can trick easily due to their intelligence. Amnesia is just a loss of memories, not a change of character. It is impossible to hypnotize(substitute for brainwash) someone to do something they wouldn't normally do. Lastly, Urie is not suspicious of Haise as much as he lacks respect for him. I don't think he gives a rat's ass about Haise's past.

B.) Of course the CCG would want him to join, they are literally hiring anyone lol. Also, if Haise is indeed Kaneki, it would not be in his character to use such an underhanded tactic to get back to his friends. Think about it. Could you imagine Kaneki backstabbing his new friends to join his old buddies? His original goal is to bring down Aogiri Tree. I think Haise/Kaneki will be with the CCG for the long run.

Assuming Haise is Kaneki, I personally think the safest assumption to make now(also the most logical) would be that he joined the CCG out of free will. The most important variable we should be focusing on is Arima's relation with Kaneki. People are saying Arima spared Kaneki due to his potential, but in TG:RE it is implied Arima has some sort of "parental love" towards Kaneki. Amnesia and brainwashing aside, Arima should be the one in the fandom spotlight right now.