Talk:Hinami Fueguchi/@comment-49.49.240.126-20170306032314/@comment-49.148.13.28-20170419231319

"Ayato is actually a useless character with no impact to the plotline(as you should already know if you read TG)."

-I have read both TG and TG:re and not just once but many times, and all those times I read it by heart. I memorize the names of all the characters and other important details. I also work hard to analyze all the tarot cards, hidden meanings, symbolisms, and parallelisms. I can tell you this: AYATO IS NOT USELESS. He is far from that. He may have a supporting role but he is still significant and therefore impacts the plot. In fact, even the most minor characters have a role in this series. Okahira, for example, may have just been a meatshield at first, only to appear alongside Kanou later on.

"Ishida just manufactured him to be Kaneki's cannon fodder"

-Sure, Ayato got wrecked by Kaneki at one point but he definitely wasn't created for the sole purpose of making Kaneki look so great. This isn't some typical shonen. The 103 bones scene showed us how much Kaneki's character has changed but it was also meant to give an insight on who Ayato really is: What happened in the past? Why did he join Aogiri? What is his purpose? The treatment he received from Kaneki was the impetus for his profound character development which becomes evident in :re.

"... and make Touka fall for Kaneki in the first arc.  After Hinami and Kaneki spend time togather too much that some people started shipping HinaKen, Ishida made Ayato return* and was hinting AyaHina from that time." (*I fixed your typo/grammatical error.)

- I  actually ship Touken and ships may be a part of the plot but the entire story a nd the characters definitely don't revolve around it. This isn't a romance manga. I honestly doubt Ishida-sensei created a certain character just to make a particular ship sink or sail.

"The problem is Ayato is fucking useless in a fight"

- D u ring the 11th ward battle, Irimi told Hinami that there was a part of Aogiri that held the upper hand against the CCG and that was the team led by Ayato. Kaneki also wondered why Yamori never picked a fight with Ayato and he realized it was because Yamori recognized Ayato's strength. Plus, prior to getting his bones get broken, Ayato held his own pretty well against Shironeki.

-When Ayato was first introduced as Black Rabbit, he was going around killing doves as if they were nothing, including an Associate Special Class and a First Class Investigator. He also wiped out Shimoguchi's squad.

-In the Auction arc, Ayato was the commander and he put up such a good fight against Juuzou Suzuya of all people (even though the latter didn't have his Jason quinque). The battle resulted in a draw, with Juuzou having to retreat and be continuously wary of Rabbit's presence even after reuniting with Urie and Mutsuki. (Yes, I know Juuzou didn't have Jason but it's still not an easy feat fighting against him.) Naki was also surrounded by the CCG and was on the brink of death until Ayato decided to come to his rescue by slaughtering the doves.

-Ayato went up against Arima. Everyone loses to Arima. Ayato was then tag-teamed by Mougan and Aura, both special class investigators. That's not exactly a walk in the park.Yes, it has been said that you need multiple special class investigators to defeat an SS-rated ghoul but ratings don't guarantee a sure win in a fight. Koma is also an SS-rated ghoul and he lost against Mougan.

-In the CCG Lab Raid, he may have not fought physically but Ayato played the important role of Kaneki's voice of reason.

"the story of Arata's armor can be resolved with Touka and Yomo alone"

-I don't think so because the person with the most issues towards Arata is Ayato. It was even shown in Root A when Ayato battled against Shinohara wearing the Arata armor. I know Root A didn't follow the manga but it still gave us hints that later became evident in TG:re such as Nishiki's serpent mask and Tatara's pyrokinetic ability.

"   So Ayato can die and the story can progress just fine but he's been kept around just to make the* AyaHina ship happen*." (*fixed your errors again)

-Again, this isn't a romance manga. Things don't happen for the sake of the ships. Ayato has always been his own unique character, long before he even met Hinami. Though his relationship with Hinami is part of his story, he definitely doesn't exist just for the sake of AyaHina. Ayato's character emphasizes themes on family dynamics, independence, leadership, and the pursuit of strength among others. His relationship with Touka is both beautiful and indispensable. The Kirishima family is one of the best things about this series. There also had to be someone in Aogiri that has a connection to Anteiku (Ayato's relationship to Touka) that will eventually serve as a bridge to bring characters from both sides together under Goat. That someone was Ayato and he achieved this when he decided to rescue Hinami and reunited with Touka and Yomo in Cochlea.

I could say more but this post is getting so long so yeah this is my opinion on the matter. Basically, I feel Tokyo Ghoul won't be Tokyo Ghoul without Ayato. Something definitely would be missing if he weren't there. The same goes for the other characters who all serve a purpose (even in their own little way) in making this series so great. Ayato is my favorite character and not just in TG. He is my number one favorite manga/anime character. I know there are a lot of other fans that also see him as such, so no, he is absolutely not useless. He may not be the main character but he's amazing nonetheless and he'll continue to be my fave.