Talk:Re: Chapter 158/@comment-26544002-20180129195945/@comment-31154374-20180130022437

"Sticks and Stones In the end Kaneki achieve nothing and simply make himself suffer even more. The only reason Humans and ghouls are cooperating at this point Is because Of Furuta plan to turn Kaneki Into monster that they have no choice but to cooperate to stop It."

Right, Kaneki's achieved nothing...aside from the slew of accomplishments I previously mentioned, as well as creating Goat, a organization that actually treated humans and ghouls alike as people, and sought to bring the CCG to a discussion instead of merely slaughtering them all. If Kaneki never created Goat then there wouldn't have been any organization to ally themselves with the CCG and devise a method to locate Kaneki within Dragon, thus dooming Tokyo. I highly doubt that if Aogiri came to the CCG and offered their help in the same situation then they would've accepted it, because they had no plans for coexistance.

"Kaneki have no contribution to this outcome whatsoever.Furuta is the one who did It."

Keep saying that for as long as you'd like, but it's quite absurd that everybody would unite to save Kaneki if Kaneki's accomplishments and ideals hadn't made somebody worth saving. I really can't see them trying to do the same for Eto.

"There is point thinking What If Kaneki does this and Kaneki does that. In the end he fail all of his goals and simply use by the enemy and turn Into monster that indiscrimanetly kill people."

Alright, you're really failing to make sense, here. From saving Hinami several times, as well as Touka, Nishiki, Koma, Hide, Irimi, Akira, Tsukiyama, Mutsuki, Urie, Shirazu, etc, as well as forming a union of ghouls that wanted coexistance with humans (as opposed to establishing predatory dominance) that could actually work with the CCG.

"The reason he is going to get any sort of happy ending is not by his efforts or hard work Its sheer luck."

Luck? Seriously? After how far Kaneki has struggled, you're honestly going to say that he's just been lucky? Luck didn't help him save anybody; luck didn't kill Yamori, luck didn't fight off Eto or Arima; Kaneki did. I'm not saying that Kaneki's life has been a string of successful endeavors, but you seem illogically averse to accrediting his accomplishments to him.

Kaneki Have not done a damn thing In this Goat arc that lead to peace between Humans and Ghouls.

Again; created Goat, organization that could actually lead to coexistance.

"You guys should give Credit to Hide,Furuta,Amon and Suzuya.For making this understanding and peace between humans and ghouls even possible."

Furuta? God knows what's going through that madman's head. Hide, sure, Amon; he's helping right now, I'll give him that, but he hasn't been actively furthering Goat's agenda, but not Suzuya. Good on him for deciding to work with the ghouls, but he was an unknowing instigiator.

Also, I find it interesting how you're willing to give praise to the antagonists for being antagonists yet you aren't willing to give praise to Kaneki for unknowingly furthering their plan.