Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-27704373-20161202225436/@comment-27247962-20161203083624

^ Nishiki, Tsukiyama, Seidou all made a clear change in their mindset. Kaneki is more complex and does get criticized for it from time to time, but not as much as Touka. Touka lacks this clear 'change'. Since her heart was in the right place all the time, her changes are far more subtle & since readers are used to seeing decisive changes or motivations from characters, that's exactly what they're waiting for when it comes to Touka's character. But as far as I can gather, stopping the punches & starting to use affectionate touches, seems to me like the only clear 'change' that would be excepted as "equal" with a big part of the audience.

With this i'm just pointing out that a lot of readers can't see the atonement she's been through, that readers as Harostar, Sam, ... do see.

Suprisingly this change of mindset was always triggered by their love for a certain person. Nishiki > Kimi | Seidou > Akira | Tsukiyama > Karren & Kaneki

I'm quite sure when Touka's drive would be her love for Kaneki, she'd be forgiven in a heartbeat & people would talk about a change of heart. While she's actually just showing her resolve like the others, but that clear drive or purpose of Touka, is still a big question to many people.

You can make a person 'human' & real through flawes, but if you're not going to have her play an important role in the story, readers look at this character build-up as a pure waste, since the analogy is: teen > impulsive mistake > atonement > growth. This 'growth' part is defined by similar situation where she shows what she has learned from her past mistakes, but that's what she still lacks. She hasn't yet gotten in a similar situation to shows her 'growth'. Unless Cochlea arc was meant to show this, since it had a distinct similarity because of Hinami being the one needing saving again.