Talk:Kishou Arima/@comment-92.205.3.147-20151109031740/@comment-26653902-20151109054108

^Yes, yes I have, and a whip was never used. I've trained animals perfectly fine without corporal punishment. Also, I thought that method's mostly fallen out of favor? At least in the US, it is considered cruel. I trained a service dog for a class in addition to training a dog of my own. You can train a dog to do things, but you can't train it to love you.

Besides, dogs will be submissive towards an owner that hits him, but an owner that's kind wins genuine affection. And you can tell a dog is being affectionate as opposed to pure submisiveness by looking into its eyes and reading its body language.

Also, you can teach dogs similarly to how you teach children; it's actually the most common method now in the West. A punishment and reward system will always be involved no matter what.

Eh, I'm tired and rambley, but bottom line is that's your interpretation. Arima and Haise's relationship is a Rorshach inkblot at this point.

Could be Stockholm (and yes, I know of people affected by this), could be Lima (there's also some examples of this), could be some weird combination of both.

I see Haise's affection as sincere, you see it as fear. I see Arima's other sides as genuine; you don't. And we don't have decisive evidence either way at this point.

Until Ishida confirms either in canon, we are both interpreting things.