Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-74.89.163.221-20140825054805

Fun fact, ever since Kaneki left she's been becoming more lady like, even going so far as to let her hair grow out and make her appearance much more feminine. A defining point in her character was her tomboyish(often agressive and highly hostile) personality. However, ever since she met Kaneki she has been slowly simmering down a bit and isn't as trigger happy when it comes to humans or just in general. I think that the human world has made Touka emotionally unstable (we see this in many chapters and she has flashbacks about her family) Touka has lost all her family and has been left alone, but then Kaneki shows up and slowly starts to fill that void, Touka has made a new friend in Kaneki. She taught him a lot of things and they started to slowly hang out with each other, she trained him and etc. Then skip a few chapters and Kaneki gets kidnapped, they both try their best to fend them off but it doesnt work. Yoshimura pretends he doesnt want to help Kaneki, Touka spazzes and says its okay, because she'll go by herself and risk her life mindlessly to rescue him. At this point she doesnt even care about herself anymore, she just doesnt want to lose Kaneki, she doesn't want to be "alone" again.

Kaneki is all she has, sure there's the manager, and maybe even Hinami, but Kaneki has some strange sort of connection with Touka, they bonded as family (somehow) Touka really likes his company, and also it seems like Kaneki's personality reminds her of her father. Even though humans have treated Touka and ghouls in general like dirt, Touka still has faith in humanity, making friends with humans, and yet Kaneki is also human, he was originally human, (now an artifical ghoul.) Kaneki is aware of Touka and her ghoul background, but also who she is as a person. Come to think of it, does Kaneki know about Touka's family background? He may not, after all his exploring and questioning, he still has yet to ask Touka what she feels, he has neglected her feelings(somewhat, I'll explain that soon)

Back to the point, Touka has flashbacks of Kaneki in aogiri during the rescue mission, and is clearly fearing "losing" him or even possibly him "changing" this gets worse when she hears about Yamori's "Hobby room" fearing the worst and thinking that innocent Kaneki might be being subjected to severe torture, her thoughts were correct when her brother Ayato confirmed this, Touka was devestated, and Ayato even went so far as to say that Kaneki was dead. Ayato was not completely wrong, in a sense, Kaneki did "Die" but he was reborn as the "Badass White-Haired ghoul" His thoughts on life and the value of it were changed, enhanced you might say? He needed this change to be able to defeat Yamori, as ayato said "ah you changed havent you? don't you think you would have been dead long ago if you didnt" Ayato again was right, the only reason Kaneki's fighting prowess increased by that magnitude is that Kaneki had a careless respect for life, even for evil people like Yamori, he resolved himself to eliminate evil instead, and thats what he did.

Touka, not wanting to accept Kaneki's "demise" or supposed death/change charged at Ayato and fought in her beloved friend's honor, believing, hoping for him to still be alive and unchanged. Defeated and "left alone and rejected" by her brother Kaneki shows up and "saves" (he didnt really save anyone because Ayato is soft like he tells Kaneki) Touka from her brother, stating that he won't leave Touka alone, rather that he would "protect" and watch over her as a friend and as family. Kaneki (newfound Badass) criticizes Ayato for being so harsh and disrespectful to his sister, and make the badass statement of half killing him to teach him a lesson about respecting your family. Kaneki seems aware of Touka's heartbreak over Ayato being in aogiri, and doing what he is. I think that Ayato is really symbolic for Kaneki, both of these guys are concerned with power, the main reason Ayato left Touka was because he wanted to become stronger, he traveled the world to do so, but why? Kaneki even wonders what a strong guy like Ayato is even doing in Aogiri, and Kaneki is a pretty smart dude so it makes sense.

Kaneki makes the decision that to stop Aogiri and people like them, he must become stronger, he must "prepare" (for war? Maybe) everyone asks to join him and help his cause, Touka asks him if he can be with him, forsaking her own studies and human/ghoul life just to help one person she hasnt even known for very long. Kaneki intercepts, or rather almost predicts she would ask, and quickly denies her, mentioning her life and her studies are more important than what he is doing. Touka, extremely pissed off (You can see it) shes so mad that she could cry, storms off without a word and leaves Kaneki to himself.

The people that join him are, Banjou-etc, Tsukiyama(ew),and Hinami(aww)

Now if he let Hinami join him, most would ask "Why did he push off Touka?" Well Hinami wasnt in school, but I just think that was an excuse, I think that Kaneki wanted to protect Touka from something, maybe he would be doing a lot of nefarious stuff and he didnt want Touka to see what he was going to do.. after all he did SLAUGHTER an entire gourmet resturant. There must have been at least 100 of them, and he feasted on them all(or at least as many as he needed to). Clearly he is concerned about Touka, because he went to great lengths to get stronger and make sure she and other were safe.

Touka thought that Kaneki would return to Anteiku, but that wasn't possible because Aogiri left him with too many questions and too many concerns, Kaneki couldnt afford to go back to the quiet life, he had to make sure what happened to him didnt happen to anyone else, (especially Touka). Kaneki slowly finds out more about the truth in the ghoul world, and becomes even more cynical, sad, and depraved. He slowly becomes more power hungry, to the point where he and Touka reunite, Touka is almost disgusted by his mere presence. But before this disgust she is filled with wonder, amazement, and confusion. She doesn't know what to say to him, not like she can say anything, their meeting wasnt a casual one. I'm sure Touka has heard about what Kaneki has been doing, Yoshimura met up with Kaneki and was like "Do what you're gonna do, but remember, you're human too." Yoshimura must have seen Kaneki slowly "throwing away his humanity" becoming more concerned with power, Yoshimura had been there and done that, so he wasn't blind to what Kaneki was doing. Almost every powerful ghoul in this series has partaken in SOME form of cannbalism at least once.

Touka inquires Kaneki about what he wants to do and who he would protect, or eliminate. Touka states that Kaneki should'nt treat people as property and that they can protect themselves, and that Kaneki should stop what he's doing, because its "corrupting" him. She can clearly see this, its obvious, everyone can see it, Kaneki's purity meter is slowly going down, but Kaneki is so bent on "protecting" everyone that its making him insane (cue Kakuja) Honestly the Kakuja isn't whats making him insane, it's all these vows he made to himself that might be challenging his own morals that are eating away at him. Touka basically tells Kaneki to eff off if he's gonna stay the way he is, because Anteiku doesn't welcome people like him who can't value or trust their friends enough to protect themselves. Touka calls Kaneki weak and also says he's in the wrong because his views are incorrect.

Touka isnt entirely wrong, but half of what shes saying is guided by sheer emotion, she isnt thinking logically.Kaneki is right, someone would eventually attack Anteiku and he would need to be stronger to do anything about it, but his morals and personality changing are a bit extreme. But Touka is also saying this because she missed Kaneki for the time he was gone, she didnt have him to fill that family void, and felt a special kind of loneliness that only he was able to give at that time. Kaneki was inconsiderate, he could have at least visited her a few times, but this guy didnt make a SINGLE trip, and when he did, he doesnt even pay her any mind. Why is he making it his business to avoid/ignore Touka? He has no reason to, or does he? When they meet he states that he's doing everything he's doing for his loved ones and Touka. So in their stead, he wants to be the one to suffer so she can live a normal carefree life.

Touka gets pissed off at Kaneki's supposed "BS" and also because he wasnt visiting her (typical girl anger+Touka's personality=Absolute fucking rage) leads to her brutally assaulting him verbally and physically. When she said people like him should stay out of Anteiku, it made Kaneki wake up and think... "Hey.. why did I have to change anyway...??" "Are my methods wrong???" "Am I wrong...???" "Touka doesn't seem to think so, well I want to protect Touka so... if she doesnt agree with what I'm doing, maybe it isnt so right after all"

Having Touka also be the one to say "Please stop what you're doing" was pretty much the final dart in Kaneki's "rotten coffee beans must be culled" brigade, and he decides protecting them will be much easier up close. Kaneki decides to drop the warfare on aogiri to go back to Anteiku where he "belongs". He stops what he's doing for Touka's sake, and also for his own because I'm sure he was getting tired of what he was doing, Kaneki looks so emotionally weak these days... Hinami said it best, he's only happy when he's around Touka, and the same goes for Touka as well. As Touka is studying she's apologizing to him in her mind about how she acted, admiting she was angry due to not seeing him for so long, thinking she might have "overreacted". Meanwhile Kaneki is asking Touka if its okay for him to go back now that he's stopped what he's doing (War). Kaneki, no longer a badass, is now (Whipped) stopping what he is doing for Touka's sake.

Touka and Kaneki are both really similiar, in only a few minutes of meeting Kaneki after months, she could tell that he's only opposing Aogiri and others because he's afraid of being alone and losing his friends. She made that assumption not only because of how she is but because of her experience and interactions with him. Touka is just as afraid of being alone as he is, why do you think these two get along so well? It may not be obvious, but these two latch onto each other to fill some sort of family void. They are a team. Just not fully yet. Kaneki should stop trying to do everything on his own and should consult Touka sometimes... Kaneki was doing what he was doing because he thought it was the best thing for Touka. Turns out she didnt like what he was doing so much so he is either gonna take a break or stop.

These two have made really interesting development, I hope they can hang together more so we can see how the new Badass Kaneki interacts with Touka. If Kaneki can survive Arima, these two just might get together somehow.