Talk:Kichimura Washuu/@comment-88.13.58.206-20160815213359/@comment-26231946-20160817203145

It is a simple answer, back in TG, specifically before Kanou lab raid where Rize was rescued by Yomo -> after that Kanou didn't have any more Rize kakuhou to harvest and perform surgery.

So Furuta having Rize kagune is something that could only done before Kanou lab raid and after steel beam incident.

The Clowns and Furuta relationship is very intriguing for some cases. Also, the Clowns didn't say that their group only accepted ghoul only member so I don't know where you got that thought from. They were willing to treat Kaneki, an artificial  half ghoul, normally. Back then in TG, there was no OEK because what Eto told her Aogiri members was a lie, simply because Arima himself doesn't have one kakugan on one eye and he was no revolutionary leader. Then what Nico told Souta was true, there was indeed no OEK back in TG timeline, as he was yet to be created. Nico told Kaneki a lie because Eto was simply no OEK, as she did clarify so in TG Re.

In Re timeline, the Clowns mentioned that they were gonna meet the King - remember to notice that Donato didn't say OEK, just the King so we can infer their definition of King is very vague, not specifically the OEK.

Furuta, on the other hand, searches for the real OEK as he dictated that person to be Sekigan no Ou. He needed to know the real OEK that Eto wanted he/she manipulated to be so (i.e. Kaneki, but for some reasons, Furuta doesn't believe/acknowledge he, which I understand because Kaneki is a hero type - not a revolutionary leader and Amon is more suited to be so). Furuta knew the fraud that Eto and Arima staged so when he said:

"I gave up finding out the OEK (Sekigan no Ou), but whatever it is, I will kill the OEK ( Sekigan no Kingu) for you"

It meant that Furuta gave up finding out the true OEK but he knew the fake one (i.e. Arima) and he would kill Arima for Eto (and conveniently, Kaneki did). It got lost in the translation because of the complexity of Japanese language, but I can point to a similar pattern when his partner - Kanou, indicated there was a difference between a fake Owl/Seidou (Ouru) and real Owl/Eto and Yoshimura (Fukuro). Furuta and Kanou use kanji language to tell the true thing from the fake thing - katakana language.