Talk:Big Madam/@comment-26125289-20150503061017/@comment-213.66.199.45-20150503074405

^Thanks for the references, now I can think clearly and conclude that the use of cobwebs and moths are the same as the use of the checkboard that we seen multiple times in the series.

The "trapped moths in the cobweb" seems to be a symbol of "helplessness, incapacity to escape one´s situation, victim for the circumstances." and the like.

I don´t think that the cobwebs in those scenes were ever meant to symbolize Big Madame...

...it´s a symbol for those that become her "victims".

Considering that the first link had Juuzou in the center, strapped to his strings and hooks, helplessly as a "victim for the circumstances".

The second is the "reputation" of Big Madam and "All those that fallen victims to her", symbolized by the cobweb and the moths in it...

If the chessboard is "manipulation of the fates of others" then the Cobwebs are the same as "victim of the circumstances".

If the cobweb actually been used as a animal-motif for a person, then there wouldn´t been any moths or butterflies in it. The fact that there are "victims" in the webs, is the hint that it´s not her it´s supposed to represent.

So I suspect that it was use as a symbol for the victims of Big Madam and not Big madam herself, which definitly is frog-based, now when I can see that the webs never been meant to represent her as a person in the slightest.

Just sharing my thoughts about it, that´s all.