Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-121.96.57.139-20160328163042/@comment-26879614-20160329132651

yeah expect that fact he had arima training him for like 3 years and just you know it's wasn't just quinque training ch 69 in :re revealed that he was actual using his ghoul power in his training and slowly but surly kaneki was learning arima style in fight which is the main reason why beated ETO in the tsukiyama arcsasaki can't be compare to kaneki that for sure and to be honest sasaki power never makes sense to me he struggle against everyone yet he always win nishiki was trashing him around yet when he snap he owned him, the same issue with takizawa he was league abo sasaki yet sasaki suddenly had kaneki power to compet with takizawabruh arima was playing with kaneki most of time and never took him seriously while in eto fight he never stopped attacking her he was moving around and attacking her form ever angle while in kaneki fight he barely moved from his V14 kaneki was insane who couldn't fight properly back then , and yoshimura kagune > rize kagune  there no doubt kaneki is more skillful than takizawa but in raw power takizawa would be above him