Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-120.141.220.180-20150211114311/@comment-120.141.220.180-20150211183549

I am not exclusively fan of CCG. I am just looking Sasaki's situation from natural, non-biased view as someone who reads TG for both ghoul and CCG setting. I do love every character from each sides be it the ghouls or the human. I never said anything about the higher ups, we have too little knowledge of CCG establishment or how far CCG can influence the dynamicity of the co-existence between ghouls and humans. so far, CCG is viewed as organization that's going for annihilation of the ghouls despite whatever their true intention is, so I cant comment deeper into their core system. anyways, I fully agree with everything you said btw, Harostar.

Idk but if the theory about Hide being the heir to Waashu family turns out to be true, I guess I can see where the series is going down to. Kaneki had been stated to be the only person who belongs to both worlds, I think 'belongs to both worlds' had more meaning rather than him being the half human half ghoul species. With TG and :re, we can see that Kaneki now really does belong to both worlds, while in TG he got the Anteiku folks, now in :re he got this Quinx family. It will pointless to have this CCG people around him if he's gonna abandon them in the end just to return to ghoul world. This 'belongs to both world' trait will no longer applied to him and Kaneki will never achieve his prime goal to establish mutual understanding between human and ghouls as he vowed earlier in the series.

Ishida had shown us that Kaneki going against his enemy by himself was a 'wrong' path for him, he almost meet a near dead end after all. His mistake in TG was that Kaneki is clueless about everything around him. Quoting Touka here, he didnt even know who's his enemy or what's his aim. the Aogiri? the CCG? He seeks for power and going around and around, only just to find himself back to square one. I can say that he misled himself and all of his effort in TG was in vain because in the end he lost everything.


 * re is indeed going to be Kaneki exploring the CCG side, he needs good understanding and judgement of both parties, and for that, him as CCG self wont go anywhere and is as important as him being a ghoul. He had experienced the pain of losing to CCG before and no doubt he's gonna experiece the same pain losing to ghouls now.

I guess that's the charm of this manga, Kaneki as the protagonist is not an easy job for him. He's not the 'fight-all-the-bad-guys' hero who needs to defeat the villain in order to go for him aim. Ishida potrayed Kaneki's journey to be in gray path, there no win-win situation whatever side he choose to be in and it's all up to his resolve and judgement whether he can make a change in this TG universe.

about his realtionship with CCG folks, I'd like to see 'em as genuine, at least between Sasaki/Quinx, Sasaki/Akira, Sasaki/Arima, Sasaki/Juuzou.

"What the Qs love and treasure right now is just a brainwashed and humane side of Kaneki Ken, Sasaki Haise"

lol, 3/4 of the Quinx had seen his ghoul side(the Serpent fight) and they didnt seem to have any change of feeling towards Sasaki. Shirazu seems to respect Sasaki more. Mutsuki got no problem with him being a ghoul(his fear was about himself not him fearing Sasaki or wtv), Urie is a brat as always. Also we got this Saiko/Sasaki affection for each other(they are too adorable btw) Dont forget this humane side of Kaneki Ken, Sasaki Haise, is still a part of his personality and ironically, Kaneki had always shown this humane side to his comrades even in TG and they came to love him for the humane-Kaneki. as far as I remember, no one from his past life approved of his rampage-ghoul mode. so what's the difference there? Akira as far as I see, she cares for Sasaki as a superior and I dont see the point of her making effort to fake herself in front of him unless she got hidden plan. As for Sasaki/Arima relationship, it's a bit tricky but Kafka's Crossbreed work mentioned in this manga will be a good read to get a clue of their relation especially on Arima's side.

IDK how this turned out to be this lengthy, I do not wish to force anyone into my belief but at very least, try to view the story more than your preference to the old setting and disregards Sasaki's character in :re whether to dismiss his realtionship with his current people or to wish this side of him to disappear. Kaneki is Sasaki, and Sasaki is Kaneki, no matter how different they are, they are still same person and you cannot just simply throw away any part of yourself that easily.