Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-107.211.157.113-20160522161922/@comment-27247962-20160524103725

It's purely the way he handles Touka that bugs me. I actually don't know what you mean with the Yoriko - Touka thing going on... I haven't seen that girl in ages... But whatever if that's something important, i'm not sure why he isn't focusing on that for us. That might have spared a whole lot of what is bugging me about Touka's appearance in Cochlea. (So what about the Yoriko thing?)

@ Needle. Like Furutsmole said: "Who ever said Re = home, who ever said that is Kaneki's final goal?" That is something the fandom decided and that also nicely proofs how much influence you all have on your own thoughts, to be convinced this is how it should end... It's something I never understood, how you can convince yourself of things the author didn't hint at in the least. He might have hinted at a deeper bond between Kaneki and Touka, but that doesn't automatically indicate that Kaneki feels a daddy-urge coming over him and making sure he creates a safe place for his future wife to make children... (that's pure fandom wishful thinking, that's toxic to the story, if you don't mind me saying that). I know it's nice to see that and all, but I also think you need to face the facts. This is not a story with that as the endgoal and you can better wait for it, until the sidestories come out with that as a possible ending.

And simply because that isn't the endgoal (unless Ishida really said in an interview that this is how it will end...), Touka's importance is overestimated and can just as likely die as Shirazu. If Kaneki and Touka had a thing going on, then yes she would most likely not be killed off, because she's irreplacable, but such a route focuses almost every panel on those 2 characters, which isn't the case with Touka, who we've seen a bare minimum of 5/76 chapters...

Touka doesn't need to have a replacement, her death will linger on for quite a few chapters if not the complete story, so the only thing the other Re:members need to do is grieve and steel their heart and decide on how they will avenge Touka or how they will live on for her...

I think a lot of fans have a mistaken image of Touka since season 1 and can't let go off what the old Touka represented. (The tsundere who would end up with the main character...) Most tragedies tend to fuck up all the lovestories, just like Miza and Naki just now. Nisshiki and Kimi. Nashiro and Kurona. Amon and Akira. Mado and Akiramom. Tatara and Chi-cheleyn friends. Urie and Mutsuki. Shinohara and Juuzou. Hinami and parents. Shuu and Karen. Eto and Shiono/parents/Noro. Yomo and sister. Rize and Shachi. Shirazu and sister. ... all broken bonds that had a lot of affection. What makes you think Kaneki and Touka is above all that? Not even Kaneki and Hide was above all that.

The logic is completely twisted, it's not Touka has an important role to fullfill in the story for Kaneki, no. It's Touka has an important role to fullfill in the story, because she is Touka. That's what the fans belief. Hide (I don't need to say more to make you understand.)