Talk:Chuu Hachikawa/@comment-26476324-20160207174947/@comment-26409128-20160208214302

There is no good and evil in Tokyo Ghoul.

The ghouls get discriminated even if they never hurt a fly (Ryouko and little Hinami). Did she deserve to be brutally killed just because she is a ghoul? No. I am aware that even peaceful ghouls like Touka and Yomo also killed several humans but they do not do it out of fun. Touka especially feels guilty after she killed that Investigator at the beginning and she even felt bad after killing Kureo Mado. Not to mention that they need to eat humans in order to survive. They did not chose to be born like this but they cannot do anything about it. And they either have to hide themselves or fight back. Ghouls like that do not even feel superior to humans themselves.

Of course there are a lot of ghouls that are the complete opposite. And that's what the CCG is for. If it weren't for them humanity would be exterminated and they are needed to protect them. But even among the CCG are people who enjoy killing such as Kijima and Hairu which simply isn't "good". And others are blinded by revenge and don't think about anything else such as Hachikawa. Like Yoshimura said "It's not because we can't take vengeance that we should feel sorry. The real reason to feel sorry... is when one is hung up on revenge and can't live their own life." and "We're always trying to justify our actions with ideals. But ideals cannot give grounds for killing another person. The act of taking a life will always be considered... evil."

And look at all the smilarities between the CCG and Aogiri. While the CCG mostly threats their members better there are just too alike. Both of them torture. Kijima and Goumasa in the CCG and Eto (and probably many more) in Aogiri. The CCG always uses their death comrades as Quinques. And then they also have the Quinx as experimental Half-Ghouls. Isn't that hypocritical? To turn humans into ghouls partly. The exact same thing they want to exterminate. I also do think it's hypocritical for Aogiri to use Half-Ghouls as weapons, though. Because they do hate the CCG for using Quinques and then do exactly the same. But it's payback.

Also Seidou did not join Aogiri because he wanted to become stronger or something like that. He was an Investigator and you could even consider his reason for becoming one noble. He wanted to protect his mother. Also he did not run away when facing and enemy he could not defeat and did stay with Amon. He was caught by them and nearly died just to be turned into a half ghoul against his will. Furthermore he was tortured and broken and turned into what he is now. It's not his fault so I don't really get the hate. And whatever Shikorae went through wasn't nice either. Characters in Tokyo Ghoul aren't simply "crazy" for no reason after all.