Talk:Koutarou Amon/@comment-73.252.180.8-20161123085156/@comment-27926840-20161126013511

well tbh in terms of strength alone shachi is arguably SSS rated imo... but yeh im pretty sure amon was holding back against te q's anyway, also the training urie was doing was helping him gain more rc cells as he was damaging himself and healing so urie got stronger for sure and some of the otheres were already strong like shao.....i mean shao was compared to hairu.

We also have saiko who has a stupidly powerful kagune that can render almost any ghoul immobile, and finally we have mutsuki who has slowly improved after the auction arc but im pretty sure she broke her frames during the torture i mean it makes sense.....so i don't find them beating amon unbelieveable at all.