Talk:Re: Chapter 56/@comment-90.204.177.135-20151207150723/@comment-27361104-20151209232559

@ DreamSempai

Rize's Kagune being stronger than Jason's is not a fact. The only thing we know for sure is that she has incredible regenerative ability. If I am wrong, please point me in the right direction.

Yes, this is a different personality. When Kaneki became Shirokaneki, was he not with the same Kagune? Yet, he suddenly gained the power to defeat Jason. As this is an example from Tokyo ghoul, does this example make the manga illogical?

The example with IXA was not to compare Kaneki's performance with Eto's performance against it, it was to show that Kaneki still got defeated despite having a Kagune stronger than Arima's defence. I was emphasising the fact that stronger regeneration and raw power do not equate victory.

I don't know if their battle prowess is the same. All I am saying is Eto is weak against that method of fighting.

The example here using Arima is to point out that regenerative ability from being a one eyed ghoul or cannibalising, does not equate to victory. It might give you a very good shot but in the presence of something like Arima's fighting style, the only thing I can see regeneration doing is lengthening the fight. I might be playing down regeneration a little but I hope my point has got across. Arima (human with quinque, no Kagune/kakuja, no regeneration) against Eto...still prevailed...mainly because of fighting style...I sound like a broken record.

How do you know Arima has not changed quinques once or twice in the past? I don't know where it says he has been training with those quinques all his life. Point me to the right place if I am missing something.

I thought this would be clear. In your opinion, the lick is supposed to indicate that she was not serious about the fight right? Instead of saying symbolising and explaining why (lengthy), I will say what I have been saying in the previous posts. When Eto got impailed, her reasoning came back. She subsequently took the opportunity to express her twisted love for Kaneki. In the duration she went beserk, she was serious. At the point of the lick (unserious here), after she got impailed, the fight was pretty much over.

I hope I have been able to explain all the points that weren't previously clear, if you still are unsatisfied with certain things, just let me know.