Talk:Karren von Rosewald/@comment-73.239.175.66-20151215042527/@comment-27394367-20151215213513

It's 100 % the fall that killed Kanae/Karren. My point was, that a less injured and exhausted Kanae would have had a better chance of survival than the completely beaten that use her last strenght to save Tsukiyama. And Comparing her with Rize makes no sense given the circumstances.

Regarding the Quinque issue, unless the Kakuhou got smashed by the impact, Kaneki should be the one to claim ownership rights (?)