Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-120.140.247.191-20141227140410/@comment-184.170.11.24-20141231183222

Touka was beating some sense into Kaneki, Kaneki was abandoning the people who cared the most about him, first Hide and then Touka and Antique, using that as an excuse to protect them while going on a downward spiral path to depression and madness and only caring about his own loneliness. Kaneki was putting up a front and that Touka beat down penetrated that front, hence the chapters title = penetration (thanks Batoto), something even Kaneki admitted to in later chapters, 140 like the original poster said.

The beat down helped him, it's no argument that in a serious fight after the torture Kaneki would beat Touka, I don't even think it would take much effort on his part, but that beating he got from her was just to set him out on the right path.

I eevn noticed that the first 2 people he adandon under guise of protection were the ones that came to his eventual rescue, Touka through emotional rescue with her fists and Hide in the end when they were in the sewers right before his fight with Arima, -(This last part is up for debate).