Talk:Re: Chapter 153/@comment-217.209.94.177-20171212092629/@comment-26940038-20171213040851

Well to be fair even though the analogy the anon chose isn't that fitting there is in fact a difference. Yes, murder is murder but being responsible for the death of a human doesn't necessarily count as murder.

There are homicide and negligent homicide. Killing someone on impulse isn't murder, neither is being careless and running someone over with your car. There are grounds of justification and ground of excuse. Self-defense is one of them.

Mutsuki is by all means a murderer. As far as we know she is killing innocent people for fun.

Kaneki on the other hand doesn't kill humans for fun or for personal gain. When he killed those Oggai he did it in self-defense. If he wouldn't have killed and eaten them he would have been killed himself. That's a justification right there.

And no, even if he knew that he would turn into a monster after eating them the killing of civilians wouldn't be murder. By law no human has to let themselves be killed. Even if your act of self-defense harms innocents as long as it's necessary to save your own life it's excusable.

Kaneki's mental state while in the form of dragon would be another ground of excuse. Being under the influence of drugs can be enough to excuse your crime and right now Kaneki is completely out of control.

I know, that's a lot of talk about laws and stuff but that's just how it is. It's not just a law thing but a matter of public opinion, too. And that's why most fans (and in-universe characters) would forgive Kaneki even though he killed a ton of civilians. Because they know that he didn't want to kill them. Mutsuki on the other hand is called unredeemable because she kills out of the lowest kind of motives.

Sorry for the long text.