Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-58.10.221.97-20150906164349/@comment-58.10.221.97-20150906201855

@ Dalalos

Andy here, and firstly, I never said they were facts. I simply implied it as what I see as happening. Kanae trying to kill or kidnap the Quinx and Tsukiyama kidnapping Kimi to eat Kaneki in the end have the same purpose and theme. Kanae is doing it for Tsukiyama's sake, and Tsukiyama did it for his own sake. The theme was kidnapping and rescuing a fellow character, except one worked, and one didn't. That's why it isn't an exact parallel. Also, I'm not sure how you were led to believe that I phrased it like it was a fact, I was simply pointing out and highlighting keywords so people don't jump the gun on wild theories that aren't bound to happen because those causes confusion and doesn't stay in line with what is happening in the story and overall theme. How you interpret it was entirely on you, I wasn't forcing anyone to read this either, in fact, for a story that is considered to have been made by a genius, most of the TG fandom doesn't care about what it's own community has to contribute as much as they care about their own satisfaction of having the pleasure of knowing and understanding the context of the story (or in most cases, misunderstanding and taking it out of proportion by exerting bizarre ideas, you can view below posts such as Koori VS Sasaki because he had similar attitude to Ayato or Sasaki breaking Akira's bones, both predictions will never happen).

Also, trying to kill the Quinx is ordinary? I'm afraid you've missed something, they are the current focus group of characters, anything that happens to them isn't ordinary. Kaneki becoming a half ghoul wasn't, so I don't see how someone who specifically targetted them, just like how Tsukiyama targetted Ken in the first part is hardly irrelevant when most of them are still new to being a near-half ghoul. In fact, Tsukiyama's arc happened before Kaneki got his mask. So was the thing with Kanae, it all happened before the Quinx got their masks. If that isn't parralling in the slightest bit, then I don't know what that is. Tooru has Torso as his obsessive Tsukiyama, and Kanae is the Tsukiyama that tried to do anything to get Sasaki/Kaneki all by himself, without the obsession, but out of loyalty for Shuu. So even if it is a parallel, it's not like Ishida is ignoring the fact these characters have their own path and are their own person instead of being a total rip-off from the previous series.

As for the overthinking, I admit I overthink with a lot of stories. And often, most stories disappoint me when it comes to figuring out the plot, the symbolisms, or the execution as a whole, but with Ishida, there is no harm in thinking too much, especially if he's the type of artist who wants people to actually think for themselves about what relates to what and get past his foreshadowing.

Secondly @1st Anon, if no one is going to read it, then why bother replying? Obviously there are two other people who have replied. So, you were incorrect. Please don't be rude to someone who actually tries to use whatever insight they might have to share some theories and ideas with the community.

@2nd Anon, thanks! I greatly appreciate your time in reading my post. It is pretty tiring when you have people jumping the gun on you just because they can't be bothered to spend some time reading (God knows what they actually think is worth spending time on, being on the internet itself isn't very productive unless your job, hobby, or future depends on it's assistance), and even in this case, being on a wikia dedicated to a great manga is hardly productive, in fact, if there isn't anything to be shared or discussed, I find it pointless to even filter through what people post because half of it is wishfull predictions that didn't take the context and theme into consideration.

In any case, I feel like I went on too long trying to reason with a few of you here. It's up to you to take it as a grain of salt about what I said, or take it as if I'm acting like a know it all who's making it seem like it's facts, but again, that's your interpretation on my wordings, not my actual intention. I apologise if the way I word things seem that way, but it's how I actually speak, and since this is the internet, and I don't know any of you in real life, you wouldn't know what my tone is like when I actually speak, so hey, you can see it any way you feel might be appropriate enough, but all I'm trying to do is be polite and share things that have popped up in my mind regarding a manga we all came here to talk about.

Whew, seems like the first Anon's posts really ticked me a bit, but that's cool, I'm still getting used to people being fine with being insensitve online after years of not posting things for a particular community to discuss. Andy out!