Talk:Noro/@comment-190.48.88.228-20151122173649/@comment-25047329-20151123045436

I guess either:

A) Ishida is trolling us and Noro isn't really dead or something weird will happen.

Or

B) Noro really is dead and there a couple of ways I can try to rationalize it.

One of the biggest issues is...well, what even is Noro? Noro isn't normal, that's for certain, but if they are dead, then that just means that Noro has weaknesses like every other ghoul. Noro has just been shown to have a freakish regenetive ability, but their kakuhou is probably a weak spot like other ghouls. We don't know Noro's type, but it must be either rinkaku or bikaku. If Noro's rinkaku, then their hampered regeneration and subsequent defeat actually makes some sense imo. Rc types have another Rc type they're weak against and Investigators use this to their advantage when fighting ghouls as certain quinque are more effective.

Nutcracker quinque is a koukaku/bikaku type and the bikaku part of it should hypothetically cause particular damage if Noro's rinkaku. This would explain why they didn't reattach the two halves of the body like normal. We saw something similar when Amon used his upgraded quinque incorporating bikaku against Kaneki. Even Kaneki's above average healing was hindered for a bit. Noro was cut at the waist effectively leaving the kakuhou exposed. While Shirazu distracted the kagune, Urie attacked the bare kakuhou directly.

As for the Qs themselves, while they're not immensely powerful by ghoul standards, they're above average by human and Investigator standards and are considered very talented. Urie for one survived a direct hit that should have killed him if he were human and Shirazu survived because of his speed and healing. It could be said that Noro was defeated because of a number of reasons that lined up.

A devastating weapon that was never seen before and had a counter type, fighting an enemy never fought before, the enemy having the power of ghouls and the training of professional ghoul exterminators, and a surprise attack that came from not knowing how to estimate said never fought before enemy.

Well, those are just my two cents on the matter and I can be totally wrong. :P For all I know, Noro will mend or Noro "dying" just means that the identity of "Noro" is gone and all that's left is a sentient kagune that takes the Qs anyway or something really bizarre because Eto. All in all, I don't think it's that farfetched that Shirazu and Urie defeated Noro. It may just have been a case where all the "right" things lined up.