Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-178.62.104.33-20160813101140/@comment-27247962-20160813210311

Yeah this is one of those times where opinions just differ to such an extent, that I it's almost absurd. I practically want to argue about every word in that comment.

I'm not sure what you are hinting at when you say 'alone', besides Touka punching away, what else was there that has done something? Her screaming in anger? Her snarky and pretentious comments? Her constant nagging?

The very first aggressive action she pulled on Kaneki in the very beginning, was somewhat understandable. Then Yoshimura asked her to quit it and tried to convince her there's a very good reason why you shouldn't beat Kaneki to a pulp for your own satisfaction. But obstinate as she is, she gives zero shits and uses every opportunity she gets to put a fist or a foot in that babyface of Kaneki. And man did she enjoy learning him to fight. She figured out a way to beat him to a pulp with his consent. She was a little sadist when she was younger, enjoying to bring pain to an already whiny brat in a pity attempt to make him toughen up. There are probably a dozen other instances that did a much better job in toughening up Kaneki, but kudos to Touka for trying.

The punching on the bridge was understandable as well, but annoying bc it showed she stilled didn't learn any restraint or normal way of conversation. Giving him a concussion while trying to convey something through screaming. Fair enough she had some emotional shit going, but I truly wished Kaneki would just immobilize her, put her on the ground and in that position she can try to convey whatever discontent she has about their relationship. But no Kaneki letting himself be beaten, shows how he is still unable to stand up to her. I'm more inclined to belief she punched fear into him, fear for what happens if he disagrees with Touka and stands up for himself. And that shows how good her 'toughening him up' worked out. Fear is what she succeeded in beating in his head. If he toughened up, he would've surely immobilized her and calmly explained why, but confronted with Touka he completely sinks back to his whiny self who just let himself be toshed around and who takes what's coming for him, without putting up a fight, just facepalming the punches. -_-

It is a 'thing' in manga... The only type that does that, are tsuns and they are my least favorite kind of animecharacters. Getting everything with their fist, they just need to throw out a 'sorry' at the end of each manga, for what they have done and they're forgiven. That kind of absurdness is only acceptable in manga and liked in manga. I am someone who automatically compares real life with anime/manga, so yeah that doesn't make me a fan of many of such absurd unjustified attitudes and behaviours. And I think there's seriously something wrong with people who wish this absurdness would work in the real world. But yeah maybe that's my shortcoming, not getting the beauty of masochism...

Kaneki is quite the sensitive and neurotic fellow, i'm sure he'll get the hint about what's going on in Touka much sooner then many others or she herself will... The one who needed a punch on the bridge, is Touka. She still didn't understand head or tails after her encounter, just another opportunity to get rid of her frustration and sadness... Nothing more.

It took her years to understand Kaneki does things almost altruistically and she just needs to wait for the right opportunities to reach out her hand or offer her assistance, instead of her fist.