Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-188.55.75.177-20141126161618/@comment-128.200.104.137-20141126202707

For the anon who said this: " it's revealed that Uta and his gang manipulated Kaneki and made him go through all those painful event"

No, the clowns didn't say anything about that. They just laughed at Kaneki for being such a pathetic one even when you have to admit that. He was a fool for going to save Yoshimura alone and discarded his friends' advice. Irimi, Koma, and Yoshimura all agreed that this was their redemption chance and if they died, they wouldn't have any regret. So it was not wrong for Kaneki to save them, it was unncessary.

Kaneki was being selfish as stated in chapter 140 and his suffering was what he brought upon himself. Souta was the one who saved Kaneki from Rize but doctor Kanou was the one who caused Kaneki's life to be a miserable mess. Remember that if it wasn't for Souta, Kaneki would end up in Rize's stomach.

Itori suggested Kaneki for going to the restaurant but it was the price for information and she already warned him about that price: "There is nothing more scary than free information." He accepted it. Even if Souta was in the restaurant already, Kaneki still had to do his own work to get the result, not relying on some others.

Aogiri torture was all about Yamori and if he wasn't a sadistic one, Kaneki didn't have to go through that.

Uta has never. EVER. done anything to Kaneki except for laughing at him and among all of the clowns, you want him to be dead first? I have been reading TG for a long time and I have been in the discussion forums long enought to know what Uta did and there are no evidences or indications that Uta masterminded all of Kaneki's suffering. You say point your fingers at other characters but to say something so stupid about Uta: "Wahhh, he laughed on my favourite character, he must be the one who is behind all of this even when the manga didn't have anything. TRUST ME, I'M AM ISHIDA!!!" . So fucking stupid. Uta didn't even betrayed Kaneki fyi, he was never close to Kaneki side on the same level as Banjou or Tsukiyama. Kaneki is his customer and he is a little special because he is a half ghoul. Remember that Uta is always nice and polite, even when it comes to killing, don't confuse that with some nakama relationship Utakane shipper. The only one who are truly his friend are Yomo and Itori.

I always hate anti-clowns because you are just so retarded to no end. You have no reading comprehension whatsoever and all you can do is thinking with your tofu brain.