Talk:Karren von Rosewald/@comment-189.217.231.114-20150706072046/@comment-26509016-20150803061541

^ Well, your first comment was pretty one-sided, so I didn't see that you put them on equal terms.

Also, about that "life-value" thing... that's a topic we should just completely leave out. Because there are two oppinions:

1. all life is equal

which is nonsense for me as well, but it makes discussions a lot easier. However, the value of life (at least in my eyes) is NOT determined by what kind of being you are. Tell me your answer about this: On the one side you have Hitler/a serial killed/any other kind of horrible human. On the other side there's the fish of a very kind family who's loved by all of them. One of them has to die and you're the one who has to decide who it will be.

According to your logic, the fish would have to die. See the reason why discussions about this topic are pretty annoying?

However, in my eyes at least, actions determine your value. For example the average human wastes ten times more meat than necessary, therefore he kills ten times more animals than he has to, and no matter if they're getting killed or not, they get the worst and most horrible treatment ever. While the average ghoul (only hinted, but it wouldn't make sense if it was different) kills just as many humans as needed. So, according to the actions-determines-value-theory, the average ghoul's life would be worth far more than the life of an average human.

You also mentioned the point that "killing to survive doesn't justify the killing". Point of view. A lion has to kill animals to survive, just as humans and ghouls do have to. It is justified in my eyes. Or what else should we do? Should every flesh-eating living being just say "I need to kill to survive, but it's evil, so I'll rather just die"? Then the world, along with all life, would end. That's against the nature of all life.

That said, I'll just quote our favorite coffee-shop-owner. "Life itself is pure evil":