Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-27007353-20151108023701

From my point of view (I'm not an Arima hater or fanboy, trying to be objective here), Kaneki's life was saved by Arima. I mean if he actually trained him with those methods (wich are actually done in real life, not using IXA but making someone to reach their limit when they think they are done and forcing the person to keep going) he actually saved him. He has forced him to use his survival instinct, wich comes out even if the individual has given up. It only can be achieved through extreme training (some armies and special forces, adapted to the Tokyo Ghoul universe). And that saved his life. We can call him whatever you want but the truth is that Kaneki is alive thanks to Arima. Maybe he went too far but we already now how Arima is when it comes to training someone. And it works.