Talk:Touka Kirishima/@comment-27347196-20170424132000/@comment-217.212.214.57-20170424162640

As said, we don't know the factor behind the two kakugan phenomenon.

(and with Dr. Kanou working in CCG now, he might actually be able to provide an answer for this. Just have Urie see him and we'll have it.)

That aside, "floppy" means absolutely nothing. It's just a word Kanou made up to put on the experiments that didn't live up to "his" standards.

(Kurona, Shirona and Kaneki are the only three succesful AOEG out of 1200 individuals made from Rize. Kanou himself admitted this. They are not failures...Just as much as Takizawa and Amon was the only two succesful AOEG out of the Owl experiments. These five are not floppies...they are actually successes but someone got high bars so...)

Want a definition of a succesful AOEG? Look at the test subjects of the Binge-Eater in part one of TG...(the naked freaks Kaneki ate and fought with in the secret lab..one who even had his own kagune start eating its host before that...) Those are failures.

And regarding the Quinx.

They are definitely succesful AOEG and in contrast to Kanou's trial and error approach, were found right away without the need to sacrifice thousands to find them.

These nine (thirteen if the Second batch Quinx and Furuta is involved and accounted for...) are succesful AOEGs.

(I am on hold regarding the Ouggai, since even if they appear succesful, they feel way too unhinged to be judged as such... I suspect them to be walking kagune bombs, blowing up into Noros, if pushed too far... but this is just personal suspicion...)

As said, we don't know the determining factor yet, but it could be a "auto cannibalism" thing, invoked with a mentally suggestive accelerated pace driving it.

For example, the hybrid vigor in a OEG originates (most likely) from the ghoul rc-cells feeding on the human-cells within the host, allowing it to constantly run on refueled power without the need to induce a rc-cell refill through the diet like Touka had to do in part one when fighting Tsukiyama. (Observe how her strength and power got one heck of a boost after just one bite of Kaneki's cells. both ghoul which contains a higher rc-cell concentration, and human-cells which contains nutrients for accelerated ghoul rc-cell production within the kakuhou and body.)

The human cells regenerates as ghoul-cells due to the hybrid vigor as well, which prevents them from running out completely when consumed.

The one-eye kakugan is a indicator of how much human cells is within the OEG. And rc-cells can be heavily affected by the mindset of the host, as demonstrated by mutliple ghouls in the series.

My guess, is that both Urie and Kurona forced their rc-cell (ghoul cells) to accelerate their canniballistic consumption rate on their human cells at such pace and degree, that the human-cell regeneration couldn't keep up with the demand and they eventually ran out, forcing the body to replace them with ghoul-cells in their place to cover the losses.

In other words, Kurona and Urie got devoured on a cellular level and fully replaced with ghoul-cells, essentially having their kakuhous eating their humanity up completely, leaving them as "true ghouls" (100% ghoul) in the process.

The reason Kaneki hasn't got to the "true ghoul" state, would be that he got a better self-restraint on his rc-cell (ghoul-cell) consumption and convertion rate, hindering himself from depleting his human cells and keeping the "50-50" reserves of these in his body as power source.

As long he is resourcefull, he will remain as a AOEG and not convert (downgrade) into a "True ghoul" (100% ghoul) like those other two.

This is the theory of mine anyway regarding this...