Talk:Ken Kaneki/@comment-26974774-20151119114853/@comment-10733658-20151119184931

I'm not saying that they are stupid. I'm talking about a lifetime of indoctrination and being taught to suspect any "human" traits are merely a trick or deception. Folks like Kureo Mado and Shiki Kijima are clearly exceptions, since other Investigators show that they actually don't know much about how Ghouls actually are.

Arima admits to Taishi that he isn't sure what Ghouls really feel or think.

Takizawa wonders if Ghouls are even capable of feeling friendship like humans. (He was 2nd in his class behind Akira, so he's no dummy.)

Kaneki prior to his transformation thought Ghouls were either just a myth or huge monsters.

We're shown and explicitly told again and again that there is an active effort by those in power to prevent people from recognizing the common shared humanity of humans and ghouls alike. The CCG conditions people to think this way, and clearly doesn't teach Investigators much of anything about how Ghouls actually think or feel.

Like I've said, it's easy because of our primary POV for the series having been Ghouls, to forget that the information WE THE AUDIENCE have is not what the characters have. Investigators primarily deal with aggressive Ghouls, not gentle innocents like Ryouko Fueguchi. As I've repeatedly said, everything we have been shown from their point of view indicates that almost all encounters involve Ghouls that would just as readily kill them in a heartbeat.

Even Arata, someone we knew to be gentle, was primary known to the CCG for the fact he was a very dangerous Kakuja. It was stated they found him because of "the trail he left as a Kakuja", which....doesn't sound nice. Of course, that was another Rare Case since it's indicated that Arata was targeted for his use as a Quinque.

I'll say it again -- no where in the series does it state that any of Sasaki's friends were ordered to become that. The Hirako Squad were hostile to the Quinx, if you'll recall. But Kuramoto ended up befriending him, and there's absolutely no indication he did so on orders. In fact, we see him express his worries and misgivings to Sasaki in private.

Takeomi's motivations aren't up for debate, since we have his Diary in Volume 4. He's a fanboy, plain and simple.

Juuzou is...well...Juuzou. Yes, he was ordered to work with Sasaki on a mission in the past....but we're also told they became friends on their own. Juuzou is considered a problem child that does as he pleases, suggesting that he was ordered to act as a plant to manipulate someone for the CCG doesn't make sense when he states they won't even let him do guest lectures at the Academy. They only tolerate him because he's so strong.

Hanbee is another character we don't need to doubt, since we're seen what he's thinking. He's a big Juuzou fanboy, and because Juuzou and Sasaki are friends he thinks Sasaki is awesome. He's a big dork.

I think the best evidence Akira wasn't faking at this point is that we see her expression over Sasaki's shoulder. This is an artistic device where we see a character's true face, especially if they are being deceptive. Her expression is agonized, and absolutely for no one but herself. She wouldn't bother if she were acting, since Sasaki couldn't see it. Plus, remember that she flipped out and abandoned her post to go save him during the Auction. IE: She disobeyed direct orders and yelled at a superior for his sake.