Talk:Re: Chapter 72/@comment-26940038-20160409184806/@comment-27247962-20160410210130

You might be a smartass, but you don't know everything, so I'm convinced a lecture will do you good from time to time. (¬‿¬)

So

'Die in style' = childish and stubborn  |  Suicide = not respected

I really don't see the difference between 'Die in style' and suicide in Kaneki's case. He wants to die (suicidal) in style (childish & stubborn). He wants to be a wannabee, just like me basically.

What's wrong with dying in style, doing something significant before you die, like saving your friends? I'm not really convinced he can escape that easily from Arima. Arima explicitly says "You are my quinque!", that doesn't give me the reassurence that Kaneki will be able to save his friends and walk out of there alive. And if you're a bit realistic, you know this kind of risky rescue mission won't end with nobody dying! You're not that naïve a person.

With that in mind the word 'chose' is just a matter of view. Because it could as well be that it's inevitable for Kaneki to be killed by Arima when he decides to go through with this rescue mission and comes face to face with Arima, which he did. Arima is practically the only person who'd be capable of killing Kaneki. Since Kaneki isn't the guy to unnecessarily gloss over an already dire situation & rather acts very melancholic & dramatic, it's not that weird people misunderstand or take what he says literally. He might just've taken being killed by Arima as the worst case possibility & didn't want to give Hinami or the crew any false hope at him surviving.

There is one point we can definitily both agree on & that's the suicide part. He had the choice off living, but chose for the suicide mission. You don't need to take the 'die in style' part so serious. He'll be happy with his death, when it saved his friends.

And that's how we come back to my point in saying that he is doing this for his friends! Kaneki chose to fight Arima, to give his friends enough time to get out!

Worst case scenario he dies! He's just the kind of guy to grab onto the worst possible ending & make peace with that. But Touka might have given him that extra flickering off hope to buy enough time & do an extra effort to get out alive or just kill arima, which he wouldn't have done without Touka's affectionate smile.

To end it! I think we see a lot more of the affection towards Kaneki from other characters in panels where Kaneki isn't present, but they tell this too themselves in a thoughtbubble or to another character. I can't recall many panels where they told all those warm things directly to Kaneki. So for me personally, it's not that suprising if he doesn't think much about the future or about living.

BUT I wish just like you that he would look more towards the future and hope that the other characters will quickly show him their affection too and how hard they want him to come back!

Eventually I think we're pretty much on the same terms regarding the endresult, but it was the way you commented, that didn't sit right with me & like the nuisance i am, I can't help but comment. -_- Sorry for the demeaning words Dalaios!