Talk:Clowns/@comment-73.33.5.221-20140925014759/@comment-50.141.189.240-20141211051235

except for the fact that they clearly set up the whole thing. Rize being killed was to set up the kanou incident, nico (a clown) specifically led yamori to kaneki and may have been behind aogiri's interest in kaneki to begin with. Then there's the question of why Roma, a member of the clowns was working at Anteiku after Kaneki disappeared? It's obvious she was planted there to spy on Kaneki and Yoshimura/Kuzen/Owl. Itori gave Kaneki info that led him to places that would kill him and manipulated him onto the path he went on, even going so far as to lie to Kaneki saying that a one eyed ghoul was the one who killed Rize, even though she knew it was a clown gang member, her ally. And there's several more examples of how they deceived and manipulated from behind the scenes; such as Uta telling Kaneki the story behind Yomo, forcing Yomo to reveal the truth about Yoshimura which lead Kaneki to return to Anteiku and thus take part in the battle, which might have been STARTED by the clowns in the first place...think about it; who gave the info on Yoshimura being the owl to Anteiku? Yes, Shinohara was slightly suspicious of Yoshimura, but not nearly suspicious enough to think he was a ghoul, and what reason would he have to believe Yoshimura was a specific ghoul? Especially the owl himself of all people? It's because a clown gang member reported it to them!!