Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-27376148-20170521113246/@comment-27376148-20170523063511

Thats not the point I was trying to make thats just the point you wanted to see, reducing me to a mad shipper, which i am yes but not only that and the fact youre ignoring everything else to put me into the sole position of a salty child is pretty telling, but whatever.

My point was and that was like the last paragraph even so rly hard to miss: It does not make sense storytellingwise for Hides role in Kanekis life to be the same in the end, which is what you suggested. The relationships impact is only comparable to Kanekis on mother strengthwise, its the first established one in the protags life we got (even before we got shown the relationship with his own mother funny enough), it was the relationship Kaneki feared to loose in the first place.

The relationship has to become either more or less and Ishida seems to go for the latter, which is as I said annoys me or whatever you want to call it bc its the only relationship we got established from Hides point of view. And as a Hidefan his well being is my first concern.

And just bc I'm a shipper or Hide was "never intended to be the love interest" doesnt mean I cant have a point. Its not for me that Hide and Kaneki "are not in love" which upsets (hell for as much as I care they all could be single in the end) me but the relationship he gets aboned for is defined by being unhealthy and violent to top it off. (and i already pointed out in my time here that Kanekis and Hides dynamic also has unhealthy aspects- just bc i ship them doesnt mean i cant judge anything with the manga) Kaneki and Hides relationship isnt perfect either but they didnt harm the other like Touka and Kaneki practically do by default. At least Hide understands Kaneki, hell he even understood Kanekis behaviour when he suddenly disappeared for half a year without any notice, meanwhile Touka and Kaneki dont get each other at all which has not changed one bit since the end of TG (and even there the shift was thanks to Hide giving Touka all the details).

Hell their relationship should already change bc of Kanekis realisation that he wants to be with hide as his hallucination put it. We already had the chemical explanation in the manga ppl change, therefore relationships change, Hide and Kanekis friendship is fated to change at the end of the manga Hide will logically not be the supportive friend anymore, no matter how it changes.

And actually there are hints Hide is lonely, youre just not looking out for it bc you appear to be biased yourself, Kaneki is the only point Hides attention focuses on, he talks in bible with ikuma when he is desparate - a complete stranger, all the other interactions Hide showed were pretty superficial, if Hide had anyone to seek comfort in he wouldnt have constantly looked in dismay throughout post aogiri arc. Hide gets no comfort and that is sad to watch especially when your think abt him getting replaced by Touka. Hides and Kanekis relationship is mutual, Hide also spent a decade at Kanekis side and put all the effort and stops to take care of him it is only logical that he will also lonely without Kaneki. (Hell touka felt alone although she had entire anteiku around, and only knew Kaneki for 2 months, cared abt him a few weeks at best) Its so far in the manga thered need to be an asspull to suddenly introduce another best friend for Hide.