Talk:Hideyoshi Nagachika/@comment-79.219.158.167-20161221123140/@comment-206.188.86.71-20161222121713

While I don't particularly fancy ghoul hide via kanou, I don't think that there's zero possibility of seeing "hide" again in another raid of Dr. K's lab. Mainly because in a thematic way- Hide's role in tgre is like Rize's in tg. If we generalize a bit, Kaneki's fight to the death against arima loosely parallels, reverses and contrasts with his fight against yamori in the original. It plays a foil- cause killing yamori was all about survival, embracing ken's ghoul side, the need to eat to live, and power. As a result of the physical torture, then 'vicrory' against Jason, Kaneki saw Jason in as a twisted but effective mentor figure, and as evident with kaneki's interaction with Naki, he actually values the final fight against Jason to a point (fondly even). With Arima, it was the opposite, after 'dieing' at the end of tg and the mental torture continuing to exist while 'everyone he loved was dead', Ken became Haise. As Haise, and with actual mentoring from Arima, he came to accept Arima as a father figure. His final fight against Kishou was again a test of his will to live, but he didn't want to after remembering everthing (no it was to "die stylishly" after saving hinami and buying time for a ghoul family [touka, ayato, and yomo in contrast to the mother and child he failed with jason]). Arima's death unlike Jason's was to him, is an actual tragedy, one that grieved kaneki in a visceral way with consequences much farther reaching: on both Kaneki (as OEG) and the presumed future of the tg world. But in both of these crucial fights, Kaneki finds the will to survive and win through a hallucination of a person he believes is dead, Rize against Yamori, Hide against Arima. Rize as it turned out in tg was alive in Kanou's lab, but harvested and eventually (dissappointly)  starved to the point of madness and in coherence. I don't think that is necessarily Hide's fate (he's not Rize/Taki 2.0),or that he'll miraculously and cruelty handle artificial ghoulification with sass and vindictive glee (a la Furuta). But if he is in Kanou's lab, Kaneki is in for another world-changer, one that may not be good or what he wants.