Talk:Eto Yoshimura/@comment-2001:16A2:50CA:9100:D010:A44E:1EA0:2172-20181231233907

The recent anime adaption of TG:re and the way they handled the Eto case. All of that awakened my anger..

I needed to present my theory. I didn’t see anyone with this particular theory before. So i thought i might throw it out there. In case anybody is looking for answers.

Now. First thing first. We need to understand how things went during the Cochlea arc. How Eto was ultimately defeated by furuta. And what happened to her after meeting kaneki. And how she ended up in the clowns’ hands

Of course. Eto was imprisoned, thus she was injected with some RC suppressing drugs. To make sure she doesn’t turn into Owl. Due to these drugs she was unable to use her kagune nor she was able to regenerate. She was heavily weakened.

She was basically a human.

furuta. Being the evil mastermind that he is. WANTED Eto to break out to kill the V members. Probably because he didn't want his relationship with the clowns be revealed just yet. So he fed Eto her poor publisher. Or some of him. Bringing her Just enough strength to break out of her cell. Just as furuta planned

She might have also eaten some dead investigaters who were laying around due to all the fighting. This will give her enough power to turn into her kakuja form.

And she does. She saves touka’s squad. and then kills some V members. Then she faced furuta. Who was definitely expecting her. Since he’s the one who gave her the chance to break out.

The fight happenes. Eto gets rekt.

Now i don’t wanna sound like a fanboy. But a lot of us can agree Eto was not in her best form. After furuta surprised her with his attack. and blown her out of her kakuja. It’s clear she didn’t have enough power or RC cells to form a new one. As seen in her infamous defeat panel. She appears to have used her basic kagune to fight. Meaning her RC levels were at the time very low

Now. We have seen eto regenerate her arms and even her WHOLE lower half. And as we can see here. She only lost her legs. Eto in her full power will just regenerate them without any problems. But she was already low on RC cells even before she turned into a kakuja then fought furuta. Which we know is a pretty powerful motherfucker. She doesn’t have enough RC cells left to regenerate anything. That’s why she says she’s gonna die to kaneki. Cos she’s all out of RC cells. And apparently she doesn’t have legs to walk. So eating some of the V members is out of the question. Since she was blasted away during the fight. judging by the broken wall behind her, sending her away from all the bodies. And if there were any close. She would have been unable to reach them. Having no legs and all

Ok the next part is a bit confusing. Since we didn’t get to see what happenes at the end of the cochlea arc. We do know form eto’s comeback in the last arc. That donoto and the clowns got a hold of her. So here. I spilt it into 2 different scenarios Eto could have ended up in the clowns’ hands

1- kaneki just left Eto. Thinking she would die. Since she already told him that

Now i actually don’t like this theory. It doesn’t really fit kaneki’s character. Yes, kaneki didn’t care for Eto as much as he did for hinami or touka. But, he admitted to admiring her and her works, he also rememberes that yoshimura asked him to save her. So the least he could have done for him is to save his daughter. The only person left of his family. Kaneki owes his life to the manger. So he won’t just let his last wish go to waste.

So according to this theory. Kaneki just leaves Eto behind to die, donoto reachs her before she’s dead and under furuta’s order he turns her into a puppet. Since it would have been such a waste to let her die. Without using her.

As much as i hate this. It’s karma. Eto had puppets. Noro and Karen. So it’s karma that she ended up as someone else’s puppet.

2- kaneki helped her. But she was taken by the clowns during the last fight of the arc

Now the last fight of the cochlea arc was not shown. But we do know that aura got her legs cut off. And kaneki and the gang escaped.

Yes. Kaneki is very dangerous when you are trying to kill his friends and future-wife. But i don’t think kaneki will slice aura’s legs off just because she’s doing her job.

A third party was involved in this fight.

The clowns. Who we knew were already there. Helping donoto break out.

Now. Let’s assume kaneki wanted to help Eto. The first thing he needs to do is to feed her something to give her enough strength and RC cells to stay alive.

We have seen it time and time again. You can be armless and legless. If you eat some meat you will be completely fine. We have seen it with kaneki. Not just once. But twice.

At the end of part one. Kaneki was badly hurt by amon. And was going to die. Till hide showed up and helped him stay alive by letting him eat his face

So kaneki was fine just after eating hide’s face. Why wouldn’t Eto be fine after eating kaneki’s.

Kaneki was coving his face at the end of ch86. Why would he? Yeah he may have wanted to look Cooler and all. But if we assume he helped eto by letting her eat some of his face. This will make more sense. Even if we assume kaneki hates or doesn’t like eto enough to let her eat his face. He would at least do it to honor yoshimura’s memory. His last wish.

And kaneki can easily regenerate any damage done to his face by Eto. So i think he didn’t think much of it.

So. If kaneki saved eto. How did she end up in the clowns’ hands.

Yes. Eto may have been able to escape death by eating kaneki’s face. But i don’t think she will be all charged up just from that. It’s enough to stay alive. Not to fight.

So my theory is that the clowns crashed the kaneki vs aura fight. And was able to steal Eto’s body away. Ordered by furuta himself. As having her in his hands played a part in his masterplan in the last arc.

During this event. Aura’s legs get chopped off. Either by kaneki unintentionally while trying to fight the clowns. Or by one of the clowns themselves. Cos i don’t think kaneki is violent enough to cut off aura’s legs in a normal fight.

It doesn’t matter if one of these theories is the right one. All of them resulted in Eto falling into the clowns’ hands.

Now. What did the clowns want from Eto? And what did they do to her?

Eto was definitely the strongest ghoul before kaneki became black reaper. And is still in the top 5 by the end of the series. Having her as a weapon is definitely an advantage furuta wouldn’t pass on.

During the time Eto was in their hands. the clowns fed her ghouls. Since there were so many ghouls dying and getting killed during furuta’s time in power over the CCG. It won’t be hard for the clowns to get their hands on a lot of ghouls.

The more you feed her ghouls. The more powerful her kakuja is gonna be when you use her.

She was under donoto’s control. So breaking out was not an option. Since she had no control over her body. Yes. She definitely would have enough RC cells to break out. But, she’s under control. Meaning she can’t move, use her kagune or regenerate her head.

Then. The time came. And the clowns desided to put her to use.

The last arc's version of owl is shown to be very strong. Maybe even stronger then Eto’s regular version. Probably because the amount of ghouls they fed her. She is very strong. And wasn’t defeated till the one who’s controling her, donoto, got killed by amon.

After donoto’s death. Eto regained control over her body. Which now, unlike last time she was in control, has a crazy amount of RC cells. Enough to regrew her entire head. And attack the V leader.

Now. The head is the most complex part of the human body. It contains the brain. Which in itself is the most complex organ. So regenerating the head must require a very high level of RC cells. We haven’t seen any ghoul regenerate their head before. We did see some reattach it. But not fully regrowing it. So regenerating the head must require a crazy set number of RC cells normal ghouls and even some super ghouls can’t reach. And since Eto was fed so many ghouls. And is already a kakuja. And her specialty in regenerating. Her RC level must be crazy and high enough to be able to regenerate the head.

So. Why was Eto on the ground the next chapter?

As i said, regenerating the head takes a lot of RC cells. So Eto is understandably exhausted. And probably passed out. She just regenerated her brain. So i don’t think she will just be ready to go instantly. She needs rest.

Now we know ishida is heartless sometimes. And she would be just dead. But he did pull up a similar thing just a few chapters ago

We all thought Naki was dead. And “sleeping” was a nice way to say it. But apparently he was really just sleeping. And appeared a couple of chapters later.

Tho why did naki need to “sleep”?

He clearly passed out

He used too many RC cells. He fought a large number of V members. Which are said to be on special class investigater level. So fighting them is gonna make naki use all he has got. All of his RC cells.

So that means

Using too many RC cells = passing out

Regenerating entire head = using too many RC cells

Thus.

Regenerating entire head = passing out

Now why was Take looking at Eto as she was on the ground ?

was he making sure she’s dead?

Take knew about arima’s plans for the one eyed king. So he knew he was secretly working with Eto. So he might have met Eto at some point while accompanying arima. So he looked at her surprised to see her here. Since he thought she died back in cochlea. Or if we’re going with the assumption Kaneki helped her and the clowns stole her. He may have thought she was eaten or killed.

Now, why was she not in the last chapter?

That’s the biggest question i have. And i honestly have no explanation for it other than that ishida wanted to keep her fate a mystery to keep the community alive. Or a small percentage of it. Since answering all the questions kills all the activities. that’s my only explanation.

Well. Where’s she after the 6 year time skip then?

She could be anywhere for all i know. She could be kaneki’s side piece.

But i do have 2 theories on where she’s now

1- she’s imprisoned. For all of her past actions.

Now let’s be honest. Eto is no angel. She’s actually far from one. So i can see her doing some years for her past actions. Yes. She did them for the greater good. But that doesn’t change the fact they were horrible stuff.

2- she’s acting as a ghoul politician.

Ghouls have became a part of the world. So they definitely need a representative in politics. Eto is a well spoken woman. And is very intelligent. And is already a famous writer. So she’s perfect for political work.

I hoped this theory was good. I am still working on my English writing skills. there might be some mistakes here and there. So forgive me if you find any.

in the end. This is my theory. So take it with a grain of salt. But this is what i came with based on my understanding of the story. And certain events that happened.

I hope it was convincing.